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Subject: Re: different perspective

Author: blass uri

Date: 16:52:25 02/20/00

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On February 20, 2000 at 18:22:27, chris sergel wrote:

>I can see I have a different perspective from most of the people here
> on this site.
>I play correspondence chess  - internationally - in an organization wherein
>it is legal to use chess compuers to help with analysis.
>I think many of my opponents have used programs to generate their moves,
>and I believe this is a mistake. (I mean, without human input)

I also play  correspondence chess where it is legal to use a computer in the
championship of Israel(3/4 final) and if I need 5 out of 7 games to be in the
final.

For some reason at least 3 of my opponents do not use a computer and I win
against them.

I am sure that it is a mistake to use programs without human input to generate
moves.

I know that many people here agree about it.
I give my computer hours to analyze position but after it I check if the move
was not a mistake because I know that programs may do mistakes.

I follow Junior5.9(I got it from amir ban some monthes ago and did not buy the
new version) in 2 games when the computer did not blunder

I got a winning position in one of them and a clearly better position in the
second game.

I followed Junior5.9 in another game for many moves (my opponent is 2200 player
in regular chess who does not use a computer) and got a rook endgame with one
pawn advantage but decided to stop follow the computer when it blundered in a
rook endgame and sugggested me to do a move that gives my opponent an easy draw.

It is possible that the position was drawn(I am not sure about it) but I decided
to play another move that gives me at least better practical chances
and now I am winning the game.

>I'm afraid I don't think chess programs are very strong in quiet positional
>situations.  However in sharper positions, they are very strong.

They are sometimes strong and sometimes weak at quiet positions.

It is dependent on the position.

<snipped>
>I've tried several programs in these sharp positions, but feel that
>Hiarcs 6.0 and the new program - Rebel Tiger - generate the most interesting
>ideas.
>The different perspective is that I am looking for interesting ideas (even
>bad ideas are OK - I can sort that out) rather than strongest programs.
>I hope I'm not insulting anybody, but I think that Fritz really doesn't
>have a clue as to what positional chess is about.

I think that every program has positions that it does not understand and it is
possible that fritz does not understand your games.

Uri



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