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Subject: Re: ICC Green List - Feb 21

Author: pete

Date: 01:32:13 02/22/00

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>>gambitmaster    2425   2444  |   35%     5    31  |  2425   2356       21
>
>Bringer looks impressive here.  Is Bringer new on this list or is it a sudden
>rise?

Bringer has been quite a while on the list now . Recent standard results :

 0  2425 gambitmast 2617 crafty     0-1 [ sr 45  10] E15 Res 20-Feb-00
   1  2546 DiepX      2434 gambitmast 0-1 [ sr 45  10] C92 Res 18-Feb-00
   2  2340 JudgeTurpi 2411 gambitmast 0-1 [ sr 45  10] A45 Mat 13-Feb-00
   3  2397 gambitmast 2447 PostModern  =  [ sr 45  10] E41 Rep 13-Feb-00
   4  2497 DiepX      2395 gambitmast 1-0 [ sr 45  10] B48 Mat 13-Feb-00
   5  2407 gambitmast 2577 crafty     0-1 [ sr 45  10] D58 Res 12-Feb-00
   6  2350 GnuChess   2397 gambitmast 0-1 [ su 75  10] B40 Mat 08-Feb-00
   7  2466 PostModern 2397 gambitmast 1-0 [ sr 75  10] A61 Res 07-Feb-00
   8  2411 gambitmast 2586 EA6PZ      0-1 [ sr 15  10] E42 Res 06-Feb-00
   9  2577 EA6PZ      2420 gambitmast 1-0 [ sr 15  10] C14 Res 06-Feb-00
  10  2430 gambitmast 2323 Amateur    1-0 [ sr 75  10] E32 Res 05-Feb-00
  11  2335 Amateur    2418 gambitmast  =  [ sr 75  10] B90 Rep 05-Feb-00
  12  2422 gambitmast 2331 Amateur    1-0 [ sr 15   2] E15 Res 05-Feb-00
  13  2344 Amateur    2409 gambitmast 0-1 [ sr 15   2] A45 Res 05-Feb-00
  14  2395 gambitmast 2378 Beadle     1-0 [ sr 15   0] A46 Mat 03-Feb-00
  15  2383 MissSilico 2375 gambitmast  =  [ sr 15   2] D86  NM 04-Feb-00
  16  2375 gambitmast 2383 MissSilico  =  [ sr 15   2] D85 Rep 03-Feb-00
  17  2382 gambitmast 2312 AnatKarp   1-0 [ sr 10  10] D02 Res 01-Feb-00
  18  2368 gambitmast 2326 AnatKarp   1-0 [ sr 10  10] D21 Mat 01-Feb-00

As you can see : not that many games but quite fair results . Usually standard
games can be better played offline for Europeans ...

There is a clear trend for standard ( and to some extent blitz ) games on ICC
btw . The computer accounts tend to play a lot against each other  ;the K-factor
is quite high and there are always new accounts with fast hardware and top
commercial programs ; so the amateur programs as a trend go down as they are the
first victims for the new accounts .

My feeling is that Bringer is still a little underrated now ( looking at the
rating development ) but as you can see another factor is it played a lot
against known opponents who not came out of nowhere with a 1700-rated Tiger .

Also Bringer plays more or less with the tournament version ( only a little less
RAM and a wider opening book ) where other accounts might use more experimental
versions .

ICC ratings shouldn't be taken too serious anyway ; if you look where the jump
came from it is mainly due to the last game against diepx .

Bringer is strong when it gets 9 ply finished all the time is my feeling ; and
that needs some time . I wish more people would give it a try but it seems blitz
games are much more common .




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