Author: blass uri
Date: 13:24:18 02/23/00
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On February 23, 2000 at 15:43:34, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On February 23, 2000 at 15:19:39, Bertil Eklund wrote: > >>On February 23, 2000 at 14:40:59, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>On February 23, 2000 at 12:33:50, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>Has anyone considered that this might be a major source of error, perhaps rating >>>>inflation? >>> >>>i don't think they consider about their methods. >> >>Hi! >> >>In example you critizised us for counting doubles. 12 out of 400+ games(Tiger), >>less than 3%. > >3% double games in 400+ published games of tiger. >and you believe this ? >nonsense. there is and there ever WAS more than 3 % double-games in the ssdf. >10 years ago. 5 years ago. 1 year ago. today. >you want to tell us that only 3 % of the games are senseless because they >are doubles ??? I think that he meant that only in 12 games out of 400 tiger repeated the same losing opening. I am sure Bertil knows that more than 3% of all games are doubles. > >3 % of the games of learning programs are maybe doubles. >but look in your games and be honest and count the amount of doubles. >and than come again and tell us that this amount of games is only 3 % > >>I have seen you publish 2 games Tal-CM6000 0-1 with the same >>opening it is 100%, > > >???? > >in different tournament ? on different machines ?? >i don't understand you. my tournament is a swiss-tournament. >anybody plays against other opponents each round. when cstal has played >cm6, it has played against cm ONCE in a tournament. > > >>but of course maybe you have played some other games that >>you don´t count for some reason that we can't understand and even don't >>consider, as our methods are so primitive and stupid. > >?????? > >What do you want. I have made a NORMAL comment to a discussion here. >and your answer on a normal critics i did , reffering a statement that was >ok from bruce, is THIS KIND OF behaviour here. >Sorry. this is not civilized ! >You call me indirectly cheating and you call my "methods" (whatever this is: >playing a swiss tournament does not seem to be stupid to me anyhow. i would >say somebody pressing a button and going to bed is more stupid, since >he is only reduced to press a button, even an animal could do the same) >primitive and stupid. i do the same ICCA and others do all their life: >this is watching computer-chess-programs play against each other. >you press a button in sweden and go to bed. what is more primitive. I think that your assumption that bertil only press a button and go to bed is wrong. I believe that he watched part of the games. I know that he even played some ssdf games manually with chessmaster. I believe that you are honest about your games but I do not think that insulting people who do not believe you is productive. The ssdf testers watch part of the games(otherwise they could not know that tiger lost 12 times the same opening). I understood that Bertil looked at the games to see if there are problems with the games of tiger and found that except the games against junior there were no problems and tiger did not repeat the same losing opening. Uri
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