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Subject: Re: SSDF Fritz 6 K6-2 - Shredder 2 P200MMX game 7-11/40 Now: 9,5 - 1,5

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 13:43:17 02/23/00

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On February 23, 2000 at 15:43:34, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On February 23, 2000 at 15:19:39, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On February 23, 2000 at 14:40:59, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>On February 23, 2000 at 12:33:50, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>Has anyone considered that this might be a major source of error, perhaps rating
>>>>inflation?
>>>
>>>i don't think they consider about their methods.
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>In example you critizised us for counting doubles. 12 out of 400+ games(Tiger),
>>less than 3%.
>
>3% double games in 400+ published games of tiger.
>and you believe this ?
>nonsense. there is and there ever WAS more than 3 % double-games in the ssdf.
>10 years ago. 5 years ago. 1 year ago. today.
>you want to tell us that only 3 % of the games are senseless because they
>are doubles ???
>
>3 % of the games of learning programs are maybe doubles.
>but look in your games and be honest and count the amount of doubles.
>and than come again and tell us that this amount of games is only 3 %
>
>>I have seen you publish 2 games Tal-CM6000 0-1 with the same
>>opening it is 100%,
>
>
>????
>
>in different tournament ? on different machines ??
>i don't understand you. my tournament is a swiss-tournament.
>anybody plays against other opponents each round. when cstal has played
>cm6, it has played against cm ONCE in a tournament.
>
>
>>but of course maybe you have played some other games that
>>you don´t count for some reason that we can't understand and even don't
>>consider, as our methods are so primitive and stupid.
>
>??????
>
>What do you want. I have made a NORMAL comment to a discussion here.
>and your answer on a normal critics i did , reffering a statement that was
>ok from bruce, is THIS KIND OF behaviour here.
>Sorry. this is not civilized !
>You call me indirectly cheating and you call my "methods" (whatever this is:
>playing a swiss tournament does not seem to be stupid to me anyhow. i would
>say somebody pressing a button and going to bed is more stupid, since
>he is only reduced to press a button, even an animal could do the same)
>primitive and stupid. i do the same ICCA and others do all their life:
>this is watching computer-chess-programs play against each other.
>you press a button in sweden and go to bed. what is more primitive.
>what ICCA and the guys in paderborn do ? or what you do ?
>
>>Bertil
>
>I will not ask the moderators for censoring your statement.
>IMO your statements is a good example how YOUR kind of people behave
>with critics and comments concerning their work.
>Your behaviour, especially your misplaced insults,

	I do not see any insult in Bertil´s post.
José.

>shows
>the same arrogance and intolerance to other people's opinion
>like your methods in sweden show since the day your ssdf-list has been
>found years ago.
>
>change your methods. be open to constructive changes, and the critics
>will end. but insulting people is IMO not the way to behave in computerchess
>world. i will not accept this. others will not accept this.



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