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Subject: Re: Five games CSTal 2.03 - Junior 6a

Author: blass uri

Date: 01:21:01 02/24/00

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On February 24, 2000 at 00:52:19, Harald Faber wrote:

>On February 23, 2000 at 14:38:43, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>i don't really understand what harald wants to show. we were the same opinion
>>that
>>
>>a) shredder4
>>b) tiger12
>>c) junior6a
>>
>>are the strongest programs in the moment.
>>
>>harald tested shredder4 against cstal.
>>i said: no wonder that cstal loses, shredder is the strongest program in the
>>moment.
>>
>>harald said: it would also lose to others.
>>
>>i said: it would lose to other that are as strong as shredder4 is.
>
>
>And YOU wrote that the others would compete with Tal, that means that all
>others, Junior, Tiger etc., are clearly weaker than Shredder.


Thorsten wrote that today tiger and Junior6a are the only programs that can
compete with tal.

I remember that he wrote it before your match of Junior6a against tal and not
after it.

Thorsten wrote some monthes ago (before your match tal-shredder) that all the
others(including Junior,tiger) are clearly weaker than shredder and did not
write it in the last few days.


 Your own words.
>And you also wrote that Shredder is kind of "fear opponent" to Tal.
>Now after Junior-Tal you change your mind, nothing new.
>
>
>Thorsten, you always complain about anything in my matches. Hardware not fast
>enough, then not equal, wrong opponent, played with (Windows!-)autoplayer. I
>guess I can go on playing Tal vs several opponents, each time Tal loses (and
>that will be more often than you would like to see) you complain about anything.
>
>Final offer: Choose an opponent of your wish (that supports autoplayer!) to play
>on the K6-200 vs Tal on Athlon.
>
>And then swear to God that you won't complain if Tal loses. :-)

If there is a difference between your results and thorsten's results than
it is interesting to understand the reason for this difference.
I do not think that the reason is that one of you cheat.
It is possible that there is some differnece between your tal and thorsten's tal

I suggest to check if thorsten's tal can reproduce the moves that your tal did
in the games against Junior6a.
If thorsten find a move that his tal cannot reproduce
Thorsten can post the relevant position and you can check manually not all the
game but only the moves that thorsten's tal cannnot reproduce.

If you do not find the problem after cheking these games then I suggest that you
do your games against another opponent.
I do not want to read again new complains(for example tal did not use the right
opening book).

Uri



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