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Subject: Re: SSDF Fritz 6 K6-2 - Shredder 2 P200MMX game 7-11/40 Now: 9,5 - 1,5

Author: Tony Hedlund

Date: 05:00:14 02/24/00

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On February 24, 2000 at 06:58:14, Amir Ban wrote:

>On February 23, 2000 at 15:01:14, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On February 23, 2000 at 12:33:50, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On February 23, 2000 at 11:08:43, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>shredder2 was not tested on the fast hardware because the ssdf always use fast
>>>>hardware for new programs and old hardware for old programs.
>>>
>>>Has anyone considered that this might be a major source of error, perhaps rating
>>>inflation?
>>
>>Why? Any suggestions of what to do instead. Do you think humans should refuse to
>>play opponents rated 200 elo higher or lower.
>>
>>>"Always" is a bad word to use when you are trying to get an accurate result from
>>>a system that is designed to produce accurate ratings within a pool where
>>>everyone plays everyone under the same average conditions.
>>
>>Have you ever thought about that the human pool works in the same way, except
>>for being much bigger?
>>
>>There is a slight inflation because some older programs have no
>>learning-function.
>>
>>Of course the pool should be calibrated but not because of someones gut-feelings
>>or wild guesses.
>>
>>Bertil
>>>
>>>bruce
>
>I think your real mistake is to use Shredder as the favorite competitor on the
>MMX200 machine. Some people see testing on unequal platforms as an injustice to
>the program running on the weaker machine, and by now you should understand that
>you will not be able to convince them otherwise.

We are not just testing programs, we are testing entries. Where Fritz 5.32/AMD
K6-2 450 is one entry and Fritz 5.32/200 MMX is another. IOW they are two
different players.

>Shredder is highly protected by
>some frequent posters here, and you are asking for trouble by testing it in the
>way you do. You can easily avoid it by picking a different program to test. You
>can take Junior 5/MMX200, for example, with my blessing.
>
>Amir

We play against a lot of programs on 200MMX. The problem might be that Hans is
the only one that post the games here.

Tony



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