Author: Amir Ban
Date: 05:44:57 02/24/00
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On February 24, 2000 at 08:00:14, Tony Hedlund wrote: >On February 24, 2000 at 06:58:14, Amir Ban wrote: > >>On February 23, 2000 at 15:01:14, Bertil Eklund wrote: >> >>>On February 23, 2000 at 12:33:50, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On February 23, 2000 at 11:08:43, blass uri wrote: >>>> >>>>>shredder2 was not tested on the fast hardware because the ssdf always use fast >>>>>hardware for new programs and old hardware for old programs. >>>> >>>>Has anyone considered that this might be a major source of error, perhaps rating >>>>inflation? >>> >>>Why? Any suggestions of what to do instead. Do you think humans should refuse to >>>play opponents rated 200 elo higher or lower. >>> >>>>"Always" is a bad word to use when you are trying to get an accurate result from >>>>a system that is designed to produce accurate ratings within a pool where >>>>everyone plays everyone under the same average conditions. >>> >>>Have you ever thought about that the human pool works in the same way, except >>>for being much bigger? >>> >>>There is a slight inflation because some older programs have no >>>learning-function. >>> >>>Of course the pool should be calibrated but not because of someones gut-feelings >>>or wild guesses. >>> >>>Bertil >>>> >>>>bruce >> >>I think your real mistake is to use Shredder as the favorite competitor on the >>MMX200 machine. Some people see testing on unequal platforms as an injustice to >>the program running on the weaker machine, and by now you should understand that >>you will not be able to convince them otherwise. > >We are not just testing programs, we are testing entries. Where Fritz 5.32/AMD >K6-2 450 is one entry and Fritz 5.32/200 MMX is another. IOW they are two >different players. > I understand this completely. I hope I didn't give you the impression that I support this view. Nevertheless it exists. Amir >>Shredder is highly protected by >>some frequent posters here, and you are asking for trouble by testing it in the >>way you do. You can easily avoid it by picking a different program to test. You >>can take Junior 5/MMX200, for example, with my blessing. >> >>Amir > >We play against a lot of programs on 200MMX. The problem might be that Hans is >the only one that post the games here. > >Tony
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