Author: Tony Hedlund
Date: 06:06:46 02/24/00
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On February 24, 2000 at 08:44:57, Amir Ban wrote: >On February 24, 2000 at 08:00:14, Tony Hedlund wrote: > >>On February 24, 2000 at 06:58:14, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On February 23, 2000 at 15:01:14, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>> >>>>On February 23, 2000 at 12:33:50, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 23, 2000 at 11:08:43, blass uri wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>shredder2 was not tested on the fast hardware because the ssdf always use fast >>>>>>hardware for new programs and old hardware for old programs. >>>>> >>>>>Has anyone considered that this might be a major source of error, perhaps rating >>>>>inflation? >>>> >>>>Why? Any suggestions of what to do instead. Do you think humans should refuse to >>>>play opponents rated 200 elo higher or lower. >>>> >>>>>"Always" is a bad word to use when you are trying to get an accurate result from >>>>>a system that is designed to produce accurate ratings within a pool where >>>>>everyone plays everyone under the same average conditions. >>>> >>>>Have you ever thought about that the human pool works in the same way, except >>>>for being much bigger? >>>> >>>>There is a slight inflation because some older programs have no >>>>learning-function. >>>> >>>>Of course the pool should be calibrated but not because of someones gut-feelings >>>>or wild guesses. >>>> >>>>Bertil >>>>> >>>>>bruce >>> >>>I think your real mistake is to use Shredder as the favorite competitor on the >>>MMX200 machine. Some people see testing on unequal platforms as an injustice to >>>the program running on the weaker machine, and by now you should understand that >>>you will not be able to convince them otherwise. >> >>We are not just testing programs, we are testing entries. Where Fritz 5.32/AMD >>K6-2 450 is one entry and Fritz 5.32/200 MMX is another. IOW they are two >>different players. >> > >I understand this completely. I hope I didn't give you the impression that I >support this view. Not at all. My answer was for the eyes of others. Tony >Nevertheless it exists. > >Amir > > >>>Shredder is highly protected by >>>some frequent posters here, and you are asking for trouble by testing it in the >>>way you do. You can easily avoid it by picking a different program to test. You >>>can take Junior 5/MMX200, for example, with my blessing. >>> >>>Amir >> >>We play against a lot of programs on 200MMX. The problem might be that Hans is >>the only one that post the games here. >> >>Tony
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