Author: Mark Young
Date: 08:27:38 02/24/00
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On February 24, 2000 at 09:06:46, Tony Hedlund wrote: >On February 24, 2000 at 08:44:57, Amir Ban wrote: > >>On February 24, 2000 at 08:00:14, Tony Hedlund wrote: >> >>>On February 24, 2000 at 06:58:14, Amir Ban wrote: >>> >>>>On February 23, 2000 at 15:01:14, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 23, 2000 at 12:33:50, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 23, 2000 at 11:08:43, blass uri wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>shredder2 was not tested on the fast hardware because the ssdf always use fast >>>>>>>hardware for new programs and old hardware for old programs. >>>>>> >>>>>>Has anyone considered that this might be a major source of error, perhaps rating >>>>>>inflation? >>>>> >>>>>Why? Any suggestions of what to do instead. Do you think humans should refuse to >>>>>play opponents rated 200 elo higher or lower. >>>>> >>>>>>"Always" is a bad word to use when you are trying to get an accurate result from >>>>>>a system that is designed to produce accurate ratings within a pool where >>>>>>everyone plays everyone under the same average conditions. >>>>> >>>>>Have you ever thought about that the human pool works in the same way, except >>>>>for being much bigger? >>>>> >>>>>There is a slight inflation because some older programs have no >>>>>learning-function. >>>>> >>>>>Of course the pool should be calibrated but not because of someones gut-feelings >>>>>or wild guesses. >>>>> >>>>>Bertil >>>>>> >>>>>>bruce >>>> >>>>I think your real mistake is to use Shredder as the favorite competitor on the >>>>MMX200 machine. Some people see testing on unequal platforms as an injustice to >>>>the program running on the weaker machine, and by now you should understand that >>>>you will not be able to convince them otherwise. >>> >>>We are not just testing programs, we are testing entries. Where Fritz 5.32/AMD >>>K6-2 450 is one entry and Fritz 5.32/200 MMX is another. IOW they are two >>>different players. >>> >> >>I understand this completely. I hope I didn't give you the impression that I >>support this view. > >Not at all. My answer was for the eyes of others. > >Tony > >>Nevertheless it exists. >> I say the hell with them, keep doing what you are doing. You can't fix stupid, and playing an other program at 200 mhz will not get you any peace. >>Amir >> >> >>>>Shredder is highly protected by >>>>some frequent posters here, and you are asking for trouble by testing it in the >>>>way you do. You can easily avoid it by picking a different program to test. You >>>>can take Junior 5/MMX200, for example, with my blessing. >>>> >>>>Amir >>> >>>We play against a lot of programs on 200MMX. The problem might be that Hans is >>>the only one that post the games here. >>> >>>Tony
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