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Subject: Re: Tournament idea -- battle of the crowns!!!

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 21:12:21 02/24/00

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On February 24, 2000 at 22:46:43, Dann Corbit wrote:

>Considering the fun "Crown" nomenclature from:
>http://www.ginko.de/user/volker.pittlik/schach/uebersicht2.htm
>
>I have an idea for a tournament. On equally prepared machines, have a round
>robin tournament for each program in a 'group of crowns' where each program
>plays each opponent as both white and black. You could use unequal machines, but
>then you would have to play 4 games for each pair of engines.
>
>Four Crowns:
>------------
>AnMon
>Comet
>Crafty
>Gromit
>Little Goliath 2K
>Phalanx
>SOS
>
>Three Crowns:
>-------------
>Amy
>Ant
>Arasan
>Der Bringer
>Dragon
>Exchess
>Fortress
>GnuChess
>InmiChess
>La Dame Blanche
>Lamb Chop
>SSEChess
>The Crazy Bishop
>Techno
>ZChess
>[Suggestion -- Promote Lamb Chop and TCB (Both are 4 I think), maybe Bringer]
>
>Two Crowns:
>-----------
>Amyan
>Averno
>Cilian
>Colchess
>DChess
>Faile
>Freyr
>Monik
>New Rival
>OliThink (I have never been able to get OliThink to work, and after it leaves
>the engine running in memory forever until I kill it with NT task manager. How
>do you set this rascal up??)
>SnailChess
>Tristram
>
>One Crown (or unknown crowns):
>-------------------------
>MFChess
>Noonian
>Pierre
>Raffaela
>Shaki
>TSCP
>
>Here's the idea:
>After each tournament, the program that wins the tournament gets promoted to the
>next higher group, and the one that loses gets demoted to the next lower group.
>
>The winner of the 4 Crown tournament will bear the title "The Official World's
>Strongest Freely Available Winboard Engine." This entry could also get a star
>next to its name in the legend.
>
>Besides the four winning categories, there could be some other titles like
>"Strongest program with source code available" and maybe some boobie prizes as
>well like "Cellar Dweller" for the program that loses the bottom level
>tournament and "Crash King" for the one that crashes the most.
>;-)
>
>The author could be consulted to create the ideal Winboard.ini settings.
>
>I think it might foster some fun and some healthy competition.
>
>Perhaps it could be played over the internet using volunteers and the 4 games
>idea to move the tournament quickly.  If you had enough volunteers, you could
>finish the whole tournament in one day.

I like the idea especially of a tournament of _only_ free download programs in
the tournament.  Any ideas on how the matched machines would be selected (which
machine?) harder to do than it seems probably??

The 3 Crowns is probably the most grey catagory, but I like your method of
promoting and demoting between catagories, but the problem I see with that is
that it's likely that the one program(s) would shift back & forth between
catagories with every tournament.  Did you have any thought about haw many
tournaments this tournament would contain?

You're probably right, TCB and Chop are questionably placed in the three Crown
area, maybe not, I think Bringer is very realistic there strength wise, about
the strength of Arasan probably.

It sounds like a time consuming tournament, but has potential for involving
_many_ more programs.

Pete



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