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Subject: Re: Five games CSTal 2.03 - Junior 6a

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 21:45:38 02/24/00

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On February 24, 2000 at 04:21:01, blass uri wrote:

>On February 24, 2000 at 00:52:19, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On February 23, 2000 at 14:38:43, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>i don't really understand what harald wants to show. we were the same opinion
>>>that
>>>
>>>a) shredder4
>>>b) tiger12
>>>c) junior6a
>>>
>>>are the strongest programs in the moment.
>>>
>>>harald tested shredder4 against cstal.
>>>i said: no wonder that cstal loses, shredder is the strongest program in the
>>>moment.
>>>
>>>harald said: it would also lose to others.
>>>
>>>i said: it would lose to other that are as strong as shredder4 is.
>>
>>
>>And YOU wrote that the others would compete with Tal, that means that all
>>others, Junior, Tiger etc., are clearly weaker than Shredder.
>
>
>Thorsten wrote that today tiger and Junior6a are the only programs that can
>compete with tal.
>
>I remember that he wrote it before your match of Junior6a against tal and not
>after it.


Correct, NOW he says so. Right after the match vs Shredder he wrote s.th.
different, look in the CCC archive if you want to read it.


>>Thorsten, you always complain about anything in my matches. Hardware not fast
>>enough, then not equal, wrong opponent, played with (Windows!-)autoplayer. I
>>guess I can go on playing Tal vs several opponents, each time Tal loses (and
>>that will be more often than you would like to see) you complain about anything.
>>
>>Final offer: Choose an opponent of your wish (that supports autoplayer!) to play
>>on the K6-200 vs Tal on Athlon.


Notice that Thorsten did not answer to my last offer.


>>And then swear to God that you won't complain if Tal loses. :-)
>
>If there is a difference between your results and thorsten's results than
>it is interesting to understand the reason for this difference.
>I do not think that the reason is that one of you cheat.
>It is possible that there is some differnece between your tal and thorsten's tal


It shouldn't since we both use the CD-version plus the 2.03 update.


>I suggest to check if thorsten's tal can reproduce the moves that your tal did
>in the games against Junior6a.
>If thorsten find a move that his tal cannot reproduce
>Thorsten can post the relevant position and you can check manually not all the
>game but only the moves that thorsten's tal cannnot reproduce.
>
>If you do not find the problem after cheking these games then I suggest that you
>do your games against another opponent.


:-)
What about my games with Junior6 vs Tal?


>I do not want to read again new complains(for example tal did not use the right
>opening book).
>Uri


Me too, that is why I made my final offer. If Thorsten doesn't make a serious
suggestion (anyway I admit I am tired testing Tal as I always get very similar
results), I'll go on testing Tiger/Athlon vs Shredder/K6, at the moment 3-1 (+2
=2 -0) in favour of Tiger. You see it IS possible to win against Shredder. ;-)




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