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Subject: Re: SHREDDER 4 analysis capability

Author: Steve Coladonato

Date: 05:10:19 02/25/00

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On February 25, 2000 at 02:25:14, Ferdinand S. Mosca wrote:

>Does Shredder 4 support auto analysis?
>Can anyone show a sample of a game with
>analysis, from the above engine.
>
>Thanks.

Yes it does.  It places the analysis in a dmp file.  You will have to turn
logging on to have write to the dump file.  Analysis can done to either a game
file or an epd file.

I've included a sample of a Shredder 3 dump file.  I haven't looked in detail
but I believe the Shredder 4 dump file is the same, maybe minor differences.   I
have written an awk script to reformat the output from an epd analysis (sample
below) back to standard epd format.

Steve

Shredder 3.0
computer speed: 465
search hash:  2^18 entries per side <-> 12288 Kbytes memory
evaluation hash:  2^18 entries per side <-> 4096 Kbytes memory
pruning on
combinations on
pawn structures on
tactical search off
selectivity: 12
check every 15500 nodes
operator time is 0 seconds
tournament book[3] on
user book off
learning on
book learning on
result learning on
permanent brain on
draw value is 0
output after 76500 nodes
output in pb after 76500 nodes
bell on
debug code off!
new game!
position:

r1bqkb1r/p1p2ppp/2n2n2/1p1Pp1N1/2B5/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R w KQkq -
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         8 |*R*|:::|*B*|*Q*|*K*|*B*|   |*R*
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         7 |*P*|   |*P*|   |:::|*P*|*P*|*P*
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         6 |   |:::|*N*|:::|   |*N*|   |:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         5 |:::|*P*|:::| P |*P*|   | N |
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         4 |   |:::| B |:::|   |:::|   |:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         3 |:::|   |:::|   |:::|   |:::|
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         2 | P | P | P | P |   | P | P | P
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         1 | R | N | B | Q | K |   |:::| R
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
             a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
 29:59 min to go (40.69, 4:29)
no solution given!
solution :
 6 ->   0:02.00  +1.46   1.dxc6 bxc4 2.Nc3 Bg4 3.f3 Bf5 (66.392) 33.1
 7.01   0:02.68  +1.71++ 1.dxc6 (95.122) 35.4
 7.01   0:02.99  +1.71   1.dxc6 bxc4 2.O-O Bd6 3.Nc3 O-O 4.Re1 (106.722) 35.6
 7 ->   0:04.67  +1.71   1.dxc6 bxc4 2.O-O Bd6 3.Nc3 O-O 4.Re1 (187.595) 40.1
 8.01   0:05.34  +1.46-- 1.dxc6 (210.728) 39.4
 8.01   0:06.68  +1.46   1.dxc6 bxc4 2.O-O Bd6 3.Nc3 h6 4.Nf3 O-O (274.676) 41.1
 8 ->   0:11.38  +1.46   1.dxc6 bxc4 2.O-O Bd6 3.Nc3 h6 4.Nf3 O-O (492.622) 43.2
 9.01   0:18.41  +1.44   1.dxc6 bxc4 2.Qe2 Be7 3.Qxc4 O-O 4.O-O Ng4 5.Nf3
(795.820) 43.2
 9 ->   0:39.97  +1.44   1.dxc6 bxc4 2.Qe2 Be7 3.Qxc4 O-O 4.O-O Ng4 5.Nf3
(1.749.014) 43.7
best move: d5xc6 time: 0:39.988 min  n/s: 43.738  nodes: 1.749.014
eval hash hits 11%; search/eval hash 64% / 62% filled
wrong solution!
right until now: 0 of 1
new game!
position:

r4rk1/p1p3pp/2n1p3/1pb1p1q1/4Bn2/2P5/PP1P1PPP/RNB1QRK1 b - -
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         8 |*R*|:::|   |:::|   |*R*|*K*|:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         7 |*P*|   |*P*|   |:::|   |*P*|*P*
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         6 |   |:::|*N*|:::|*P*|:::|   |:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         5 |:::|*P*|*B*|   |*P*|   |*Q*|
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         4 |   |:::|   |:::| B |*N*|   |:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         3 |:::|   | P |   |:::|   |:::|
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         2 | P | P |   | P |   | P | P | P
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         1 | R | N | B |   | Q | R | K |
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
             a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
 30:00 min to go (40.70, 4:30)
no solution given!
solution :
 8 ->   0:01.11  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 Nxf2+ 4.Kg1 (75.887) 68.2
 9.01   0:01.30  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 Nxf2+ 4.Kg1 (84.294) 64.7
 9 ->   0:02.69  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 Nxf2+ 4.Kg1 (170.285) 63.2
10.01   0:03.49  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 (210.755) 60.3
10 ->   0:05.83  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 (384.855) 65.9
11.01   0:08.85  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 (533.598) 60.2
11 ->   0:21.96  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 (1.351.283) 61.5
12.01   0:34.27  +6.25   1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 Nh3+ 3.Kh1 (1.988.821) 58.0
best move: Bc5xf2 time: 0:48.470 min  n/s: 57.626  nodes: 2.793.169
eval hash hits 10%; search/eval hash 80% / 48% filled
wrong solution!
right until now: 0 of 2
new game!
position:

r5k1/p1p3pp/2B1p3/1p2p1q1/8/2P5/PP1P1nPP/RNB2K2 b - -
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         8 |*R*|:::|   |:::|   |:::|*K*|:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         7 |*P*|   |*P*|   |:::|   |*P*|*P*
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         6 |   |:::| B |:::|*P*|:::|   |:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         5 |:::|*P*|:::|   |*P*|   |*Q*|
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         4 |   |:::|   |:::|   |:::|   |:::
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         3 |:::|   | P |   |:::|   |:::|
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         2 | P | P |   | P |   |*N*| P | P
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         1 | R | N | B |   |:::| K |:::|
           +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
             a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
 30:00 min to go (40.70, 4:30)
no solution given!
solution :
 6.01   0:00.51  +7.58++ 1...Rf8 (27.214) 53.3
 6.01   0:02.14  +8.20   1...Rf8 2.Bf3 Nd3 3.Na3 e4 4.h4 Qxh4 5.Nxb5 exf3 6.Nxc7
(118.080) 55.1
 6 ->   0:02.30  +8.20   1...Rf8 2.Bf3 Nd3 3.Na3 e4 4.h4 Qxh4 5.Nxb5 exf3 6.Nxc7
(126.171) 54.7
 7.01   0:02.69  +8.45++ 1...Rf8 (142.534) 52.9
 7.01   0:04.14  +8.85   1...Rf8 2.Ke2 e4 3.h3 Nd3 4.Bxe4 Nxc1+ 5.Kd1 (225.403)
54.3
 7 ->   0:05.23  +8.85   1...Rf8 2.Ke2 e4 3.h3 Nd3 4.Bxe4 Nxc1+ 5.Kd1 (299.147)
57.1
 8.01   0:06.48  +9.10++ 1...Rf8 (356.524) 54.9
 8.01   0:09.46  +9.59   1...Rf8 2.Bf3 Nd3 3.Kg1 e4 4.Kf1 Nxc1 5.Na3 Qxd2 6.Nxb5
Qxb2 7.Nxc7 (504.188) 53.2
 8 ->   0:09.53  +9.59   1...Rf8 2.Bf3 Nd3 3.Kg1 e4 4.Kf1 Nxc1 5.Na3 Qxd2 6.Nxb5
Qxb2 7.Nxc7 (505.629) 53.0
 9.01   0:23.28  +9.84++ 1...Rf8 (1.178.679) 50.6
 9.01   0:36.92 +10.34++ 1...Rf8 (1.871.258) 50.6
 9.01   0:42.61 +10.43   1...Rf8 2.Bf3 Qh4 3.h3 e4 4.Kg1 exf3 5.a4 bxa4
(2.177.836) 51.1
 9 ->   0:44.74 +10.43   1...Rf8 2.Bf3 Qh4 3.h3 e4 4.Kg1 exf3 5.a4 bxa4
(2.316.522) 51.7
best move: Ra8-f8 time: 0:44.774 min  n/s: 51.738  nodes: 2.316.522
eval hash hits 14%; search/eval hash 77% / 62% filled
wrong solution!
right until now: 0 of 3




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