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Subject: Re: Urgent: NT "Mixer" Required (Bringer is too quiet for this challenge)

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 07:56:58 02/25/00

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On February 25, 2000 at 06:20:17, Graham Laight wrote:

>On February 24, 2000 at 19:18:07, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 2000 at 18:59:48, Graham Laight wrote:
[.....
>>
>>What kind of tablebases were you allowing Bringer to use?  Bringer's a very cool
>>little program, but on it's own without any tablebases, I don't think it plays
>>such a great endgame, it is stronger than me however.
>
>I don't have a problem with Bringer's endgame - I think it is very good in this
>respect.
>
>In fact, Bringer is really very good in general. However, in the situation of
>being a queen down, it's strength seems to be a handicap - it prevents it from
>playing aggressive looking (but unsound) tactical moves that might induce panic
>in the opponent.
>
>If you want to see a bad endgame, try  playing Travel Champion 2100! TC-2100
>really relies on having the game already won before it gets to the endgame. This
>it can achieve against most of us - Franz Morsch seems to have programmed it to
>tactically "mix it" like crazy! However - if you can survive the middle game
>mayhem, the endgame is astonishingly easy to win.
>
>>Try Winboard, the Winboard Comet, and Crafty, and if you don't have them yet,
>>get yourself a collection of endgame tablebases at
>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/  There's also several other Winboard engines
>>that are stronger than Bringer, try SOS, AnMon, Little Goliath, and The Crazy
>>Bishop is such a tactical masterpiece yet it doesn't get mentioned often enough,
>>I didn't use it for the longest time because I didn't understand how to set up
>>TCB, this was a mistake on my part, TCB is great.
>
>I have tended to avoid Winboard programs because of comments I have read on this
>forum.
>
>The impression I get is that the interface precludes access to many features
>(e.g. mainline analysis).

Depending on your perspective on Winboard, it is or isn't filled with features,
many of us will say that it's the best because it has no fluff.  The problem
with avoiding Winboard is that you prevent yourself from using the _best_
download engines.  Being a Queen up isn't enough to win a game for me, but if
you're at all a strong player, then you're probably looking for the strongest
download engine to go against, that's why Winboard's interface should interest
you, it'll allow you to play against strong programs like Crafty, Comet, TCB,
LGol, etc., and those programs are partly crippled if you try to interface them
through the great Chessbase interfaces, so the Winboard bare-bones interface
gives them the most strength.

>
>With a Winboard program, is it possible to set the clocks for a program to G/5?
>
>Is it possible to set different times for each player?

Not that I know of, you can set it so that the flag doesn't drop and call you on
time though.

>
>-g
>
>>See the Winboard page for some of the download locations for these programs
>>http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/personal/Tim_Mann/chess.html
>>
>>Pete



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