Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
Date: 03:20:14 02/26/00
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On February 25, 2000 at 14:59:42, Pete Galati wrote: >On February 25, 2000 at 13:27:17, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: > >>On February 25, 2000 at 13:24:37, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote: >> >>>On February 25, 2000 at 10:42:12, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>LANs are getting more and more popular so I want to remind everybody of a >>>>special feature of my autoplayer code for Windows that has been available with >>>>source code for quite a while now and that has been implemented in Shredder >>>>since version 2. I am addressing particularly the programmers of windows GUIs of >>>>chess programs or the ones who have used my code in their programs. >>>> >>>>With my code is it possible to play automatically against another windows >>>>program in a network without the need to connect the two machines with a serial >>>>cable. All communication is done via the network. Yesterday I let Shredder play >>>>a match against ChessTiger and felt very stupid being forced to connect the two >>>>machines with an additional cable. >>>> >>>>It is very easy to add this feature, more precisely it is harder to remove it >>>>from the source code than to just leave it in there. There is no difference to >>>>the engine as all communication is done by my code. The engine and also the >>>>interface can’t tell weather the two computers are connected via network or via >>>>a serial cable. >>>> >>>>To my knowledge Shredder is currently the only program that is capable of >>>>playing automatically on two machines without a serial cable by using the >>>>network connection. Many programs are using my code for their autoplayer but >>>>everyone seems to have removed the code for playing in a network. I have no idea >>>>why, so please help me to understand it. If any programmer needs more support >>>>for adding this feature please contact me as it is getting boring to play >>>>Shredder vs. Shredder in my network only. >>>> >>>>It was discussed here recently that it is possible to connect com1 and com2 on >>>>one machine and use the autoplayer on one machine with two different programs. >>>>This works fine, especially on a dual machine, but if you think about that it >>>>seems very strange to have to connect one computer to itself with a serial >>>>cable. Well, you can have a more elegant solution for that with my network >>>>autoplayer code because as a side effect you can also play with two programs on >>>>one machine without any cable at all. >>>> >>>>As I have already addressed this subject here some time ago but didn’t get much >>>>feedback I would be happy to hear about your thoughts about that and to learn >>>>about the motivation of the ones who have removed the network code from my >>>>autoplayer source code. >>>> >>>>I would be happy if more programs support this feature in the future. >>>> >>>>Stefan >>> >>>Stefan, >>> >>>I bought Autoplayer 232 a couple of months ago. I have three computers in a LAN >>>with all my chess programs. When I bought the program I (wrongly!) assumed that >>>the additional cable was not necessary when you have a LAN. It seemed to me so >>>obvious that I didn't check it. For technical reasons I can not connect my >>>computers with another cable, so that the contradiction is that I need to >>>disconnect my LAN and connect the cable if I want to use the Autoplayer 232. >>> >>>You can imagine that I totally agree with your comments... especially if, as you >>>say, there is no problem to operate A.232 in a LAN providing the programmes are >>>adapted to do it. Please, programmers, let the consumers to take advantage from >>>the existing LANs. It doesn't seem to be very difficult, according to Stefan's >>>comment. >>> >>>Thanks for your good work, Stefan. Despite some minor inconveniences, your >>>autoplayer is an important improvement for computer chess lovers!. >>> >>>Tomas. >> >>I forgot to mention that you need Windows NT or 2000 to use the autoplayer in a >>network. There might be ways to do it with Win 9x, too, but I am not sure. >> >>Stefan > >I have no idea at all how auto232 is done, wish I knew more about it, but I >don't think most people are not very interested in discussing it and to be >honest, I might not understand allot of it if there was more discusion about it. > >For what it's worth, my Windows95 computer is hooked up to the internet through >what is labled "Dial up Networking", I don't know if that's what you refer to >when you say "network". It was not loaded on the machine when I did the Win95 >upgrade, I had to add it from the MS disc when I connected with my current ISP. > >Pete I was talking about two computers in a windows network, usually a LAN. I might also work in the internet, but I am not sure. Stefan
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