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Subject: Re: Chessmaster on winboard?

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 20:56:11 02/28/00

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On February 28, 2000 at 12:49:06, John Merlino wrote:

>On February 28, 2000 at 00:18:47, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:
>
>>Why don't they release a Winboard engine?
>>
>>Because they would have *absolutely nothing* to gain. It would take significant
>>programming effort on their part, and would not generate any additional sales.
>>The makers of Chess Master care very little for the 100-5000 hard-core
>>enthusiasts who even know that there even *are* winboard engines. We would buy
>>CM8K (or whatever) regardless of the winboard interface. And the 99.99% of the
>>other Chess Master purchasers couldn't care less about it.
>>
>>Therefore, it wouldn't be a particularly good move on their part to spend money
>>for something from whcih they would generate no return.
>>
>>Chris
>
>Well, I have some news from the Chessmaster development team. They (and Johan)
>are currently doing a "proof of concept" regarding making the next version of
>Chessmaster Winboard compatible. They have told me that the current Winboard
>protocol does not handle everything they will need to do, however, so they have
>(as has been said elsewhere) a fair amount of coding to do to get it to work.

That is inline with what most other (such as Chessbase) companies are doing,
offering an interface that will accept Winboard engines, but not supplying an
engine for Winboard itself.

>
>Nevertheless, they feel that it would be a benefit for people to be able to
>bring other Winboard-compatible engines into CM8000 (or whatever it will be
>called). HOWEVER, from what they have told me, it APPEARS that The King itself
>will NOT be usable OUTSIDE Chessmaster, and it is very likely that you will not
>be able to analyze with any other engine other than The King. In other words,
>you can bring another engine into Chessmaster ONLY to play chess.
>
>Still, though, it sounds exciting to me (one of those 0.01% who know about these
>things). I hope it actually happens....
>
>jm

It _would_ be good, yes.  And if they can supply an interface that doesn't
restart the Winboard engines with every move ( ei. Chessbase interfaces) then
they'd have a foot up.  I can't tell from what you say if they were thinking of
allowing engine vs engine games or not, that would be good, allthough a posible
problem as far as measuring CM's strength since CM is known as a bit of a CPU
hog.  If they'd throw away 50% of their fluff features, they'd have a better
program that would release with less bugs, but that's probably not related to
the CPU use, but they need to strip it down some.

All this aside, it would be a good thing if CM would start to interface Winboard
engines.  Cross your fingers.

Pete



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