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Subject: Re: A simple endgame?(with diagram)

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 00:42:14 03/02/00

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On March 02, 2000 at 01:58:25, blass uri wrote:

>On March 02, 2000 at 00:22:15, John Coffey wrote:
>
>>With the position
>>
>>White King on a1 and white rook on a4
>>
>>Black pawns on a3 and b3.  Black King on c3 and Black knight on c4.
>>
>>My opponent and I thought that black could have won with  1. ... b2+
>>2.  Ka2 Nd2 where 3. Rxa3+ would fail to Kc2 winning.  But 3. Rb4!! draws.
>>
>>Fritz 5.01 takes a remarkably long time to realize that this is a draw.  After
>>3 minutes on a Pentium III 450 mhz it still thinks 1. .... Kd3  2. Rb4 Kc3  3.
>>Ra3 repeating
>>the position but Fritz still thinks -+ with a score of -1.59
>
>[D]8/8/8/8/R1n5/ppk5/8/K7 b - - 0 1
>Fritz5 is blind in this position.
>fritz5 cannot see a simple repetition but the position is not very simple for
>computers
>It is simple for them to see that b2+ does not win and that 1...Kd3 2.Rb4 Kc3
>Ra4 is a draw but they need more time to see that lines like Ne3 leads to a
>draw.
>
>programs usually can see the draw after less than 3 minutes on pIII450
>
>Uri

Crafty does fine here.

               19->   1:03   4.11   1. ... Ne3 2. Kb1 Nc2 3. Ra8 Kd3 4.
                                    Rd8+ Nd4 5. Ra8 Nb5 6. Rd8+ Kc3 7.
                                    Rc8+ Kb4 8. Rb8 Kc4 9. Rc8+ Kd4 10.
                                    Rb8 Kc5 11. Rc8+ Kb6 12. Rb8+ Ka5 13.
                                    Rd8
               20     1:06     --   1. ... Ne3
               20     1:12   0.00   1. ... Ne3 2. Kb1 Nc2 3. Ra8 Kd3 4.
                                    Ra6 a2+ 5. Rxa2 <HT>
         (3)   20->   1:25   0.00   1. ... Ne3 2. Kb1 Nc2 3. Ra8 Kd3 4.
                                    Ra6 a2+ 5. Rxa2 <HT>
         (2)   21     1:40   0.00   1. ... Ne3 2. Kb1 Nc2 3. Ra8 Kd3 4.
                                    Ra6 a2+ 5. Rxa2 <HT>
               21->   1:50   0.00   1. ... Ne3 2. Kb1 Nc2 3. Ra8 Kd3 4.
                                    Ra6 a2+ 5. Rxa2 <HT>
               22     2:07   0.00   1. ... Ne3 2. Kb1 Nc2 3. Ra8 Kd3 4.
                                    Ra6 a2+ 5. Rxa2 <HT>
               22->   2:17   0.00   1. ... Ne3 2. Kb1 Nc2 3. Ra8 Kd3 4.
                                    Ra6 a2+ 5. Rxa2 <HT>

Kind regards
Bernhard



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