Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 23:40:32 03/08/00
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On March 09, 2000 at 01:25:07, Côme wrote: >On March 08, 2000 at 20:19:48, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On March 08, 2000 at 16:10:18, Côme wrote: >> >>>On March 08, 2000 at 15:41:45, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>>>Are you sure that 1. ... c5 is the best continuation? What about 1. ... Bf6 2. >>>>Be5 Kg7? >> >>>After 1. ... Bf6 ; Be5 and Kg7, white IMHO can play Bxf6+ and White position is >>>probably winning because he has a pawn up and the black king is misplaced. >>>Have you try this position on ferret ? >> >>No, that's its plan after thinking for 24 hours on this on a crusty old machine. >> The move might be bad, but just by looking at it with my eyeball it's an >>interesting alternative to 1. ... c5. >> >>You are right that white is a pawn up and is better, but the implication behind >>my program choosing this continuation is that it has figured out how to do the >>same or better against 1. ... c5. Its score is +1.35. >> >>I think this is an interesting problem, but very prone to misinterpretation. >>There are two aspects: >> >>1) Finding the move in the first place, which involves discovering that the rook >>can't be taken, and preferring the resulting position. >> >>2) Deciding that in the ensuing tactics, white has significant material >>advantage or a forced mate. >> >>You've gotten a lot of replies from people who have found programs that can get >>as far as the first aspect of this, and want to stop there, satisfied, but so >>far nobody has found a convincing crush. Are you sure that one exists? >> >>bruce > >Hello Bruce, >I don't understand really what you say because of my bad english but Rxh5! is >a winning move for humans. >Best Regards >Alexandre Côme I don't know what you expect from programs then. If some program understands that after 1. Rxh5, black can't take the rook, is that enough? From what I see you don't think so and neither do I. In most tactical tests you expect a program to find mate or win of major material. None of the programs has done this yet. Where is this position from, and what happened in the game? bruce
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