Author: Côme
Date: 09:30:33 03/09/00
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On March 09, 2000 at 02:40:32, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On March 09, 2000 at 01:25:07, Côme wrote: > >>On March 08, 2000 at 20:19:48, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>>On March 08, 2000 at 16:10:18, Côme wrote: >>> >>>>On March 08, 2000 at 15:41:45, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>>Are you sure that 1. ... c5 is the best continuation? What about 1. ... Bf6 2. >>>>>Be5 Kg7? >>> >>>>After 1. ... Bf6 ; Be5 and Kg7, white IMHO can play Bxf6+ and White position is >>>>probably winning because he has a pawn up and the black king is misplaced. >>>>Have you try this position on ferret ? >>> >>>No, that's its plan after thinking for 24 hours on this on a crusty old machine. >>> The move might be bad, but just by looking at it with my eyeball it's an >>>interesting alternative to 1. ... c5. >>> >>>You are right that white is a pawn up and is better, but the implication behind >>>my program choosing this continuation is that it has figured out how to do the >>>same or better against 1. ... c5. Its score is +1.35. >>> >>>I think this is an interesting problem, but very prone to misinterpretation. >>>There are two aspects: >>> >>>1) Finding the move in the first place, which involves discovering that the rook >>>can't be taken, and preferring the resulting position. >>> >>>2) Deciding that in the ensuing tactics, white has significant material >>>advantage or a forced mate. >>> >>>You've gotten a lot of replies from people who have found programs that can get >>>as far as the first aspect of this, and want to stop there, satisfied, but so >>>far nobody has found a convincing crush. Are you sure that one exists? >>> >>>bruce >> >>Hello Bruce, >>I don't understand really what you say because of my bad english but Rxh5! is >>a winning move for humans. >>Best Regards >>Alexandre Côme > >I don't know what you expect from programs then. If some program understands >that after 1. Rxh5, black can't take the rook, is that enough? From what I see >you don't think so and neither do I. > >In most tactical tests you expect a program to find mate or win of major >material. None of the programs has done this yet. > >Where is this position from, and what happened in the game? > >bruce Hello Bruce, It's a game Yusupov 2655 - Gavrikov 2600 And Gavrikov taken the rook on h5 and lost quickly. Best Regards Alexandre Côme
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