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Subject: Re: Winboard Interzonal Round 1 update.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:58:36 04/02/00

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On April 02, 2000 at 15:36:50, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On April 02, 2000 at 10:46:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2000 at 01:30:20, Johan Havegheer wrote:
>>
>>>On April 01, 2000 at 22:05:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 01, 2000 at 14:30:36, Daniel Chancey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>3 games are finished currently.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bringer-Goliath 0-1 (Bringer's flag fell but analysis by Crafty showed a win for
>>>>>Goliath)
>>>>>
>>>>>Lambchop-SSeChess 1-0 (SSeChess checkmated)
>>>>>
>>>>>ExChess-Francesca 1/2-1/2 (draw by 3-fold repetetion seen)
>>>>>
>>>>>Arasan-Bionic delay (Seems that Bionic is happy without the 2nd board.)
>>>>>
>>>>>More info will be posted as soon as the first round is finished.
>>>>>
>>>>>Castle2000
>>>>
>>>>Is this the "bionic = crafty clone" program?
>>>
>>>Oh not again , Bob !!! Yes because i don't know another Bionic. After all the
>>>commotion Hans stopped with the Bionic project. But Mr Hyatt is always repeating
>>>that same sentence (Bionic = Crafty clone)
>>>
>>>Johan
>>
>>I simply asked the question.  It was public knowledge.  And Bionic hasn't been
>>heard from for a long time.  I wanted to know if (a) it was a real program or
>>(b) the person playing the game knew bionic was really crafty.  Makes little
>>sense to have multiple copies of _one_ program in the same tournament.  Sort of
>>stacks the deck in favor of that program, wouldn't you say???
>>
>>And I am not "always repeating that sentence".  This is the first time in a
>>year or so that the name bionic came up.  once a year is hardly "always"...  but
>>since I wrote the code, I'll speak up whenever I feel like it...
>
>Hello Bob,
>
>I have a very nice contact to Gabriele Müller over 1 year. You know my eMail
>from the last year to Gabi and yourself. Now interference with Gabi from this
>time.
>
>Hans Secelle and Gabriele Müller have very nice ideas. Hans work on positionell
>knowledge and Gabi on new learn heuristics. I am glad when I see that more and
>more people have ideas for chess programs.
>
>For Hans and Gabi is programming a big hobby and Hans Secelle work now with Tom
>Vijlbrief (programmer of Ant).
>
>I think that Hans and Gabi have not commercial interest with the older programs
>Voyager and Bionic Impakt and the theme is old. I can understand your point of
>views but enough is enough (OK, I can not say this but it`s my opinion) !
>
>BTW:
>Your program play better and better. I think now that Crafty play stronger with
>longer time controls. This is a reason for fantastic results on "Dual Boards"
>with longer time controls, or ?
>
>Thanks for your work all the time.
>
>Regards
>Frank
>
>Bob, you have more experience of life and I will not interfere in the
>problematic with Bionic and Voyager. People make mistakes (I make mistakes and
>you make mistakes, Gabi and Hans make mistakes) but it`s better to forget the
>story.


I had forgotten.  But then someone posted a tournament result based on a program
named "bionic".  I see no reason to not mention what bionic was...  any more
than I see any valid reason to _ever_ include bionic, voyager, or le petite,
in _any_ tournament of any kind...

But if someone wants to include those 'clones', I plan on at least making the
note that it is really crafty, which I don't like to see...



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