Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 07:54:16 04/03/00
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On April 02, 2000 at 17:58:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 02, 2000 at 15:36:50, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>On April 02, 2000 at 10:46:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 02, 2000 at 01:30:20, Johan Havegheer wrote: >>> >>>>On April 01, 2000 at 22:05:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 01, 2000 at 14:30:36, Daniel Chancey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>3 games are finished currently. >>>>>> >>>>>>Bringer-Goliath 0-1 (Bringer's flag fell but analysis by Crafty showed a win for >>>>>>Goliath) >>>>>> >>>>>>Lambchop-SSeChess 1-0 (SSeChess checkmated) >>>>>> >>>>>>ExChess-Francesca 1/2-1/2 (draw by 3-fold repetetion seen) >>>>>> >>>>>>Arasan-Bionic delay (Seems that Bionic is happy without the 2nd board.) >>>>>> >>>>>>More info will be posted as soon as the first round is finished. >>>>>> >>>>>>Castle2000 >>>>> >>>>>Is this the "bionic = crafty clone" program? >>>> >>>>Oh not again , Bob !!! Yes because i don't know another Bionic. After all the >>>>commotion Hans stopped with the Bionic project. But Mr Hyatt is always repeating >>>>that same sentence (Bionic = Crafty clone) >>>> >>>>Johan >>> >>>I simply asked the question. It was public knowledge. And Bionic hasn't been >>>heard from for a long time. I wanted to know if (a) it was a real program or >>>(b) the person playing the game knew bionic was really crafty. Makes little >>>sense to have multiple copies of _one_ program in the same tournament. Sort of >>>stacks the deck in favor of that program, wouldn't you say??? >>> >>>And I am not "always repeating that sentence". This is the first time in a >>>year or so that the name bionic came up. once a year is hardly "always"... but >>>since I wrote the code, I'll speak up whenever I feel like it... >> >>Hello Bob, >> >>I have a very nice contact to Gabriele Müller over 1 year. You know my eMail >>from the last year to Gabi and yourself. Now interference with Gabi from this >>time. >> >>Hans Secelle and Gabriele Müller have very nice ideas. Hans work on positionell >>knowledge and Gabi on new learn heuristics. I am glad when I see that more and >>more people have ideas for chess programs. >> >>For Hans and Gabi is programming a big hobby and Hans Secelle work now with Tom >>Vijlbrief (programmer of Ant). >> >>I think that Hans and Gabi have not commercial interest with the older programs >>Voyager and Bionic Impakt and the theme is old. I can understand your point of >>views but enough is enough (OK, I can not say this but it`s my opinion) ! >> >>BTW: >>Your program play better and better. I think now that Crafty play stronger with >>longer time controls. This is a reason for fantastic results on "Dual Boards" >>with longer time controls, or ? >> >>Thanks for your work all the time. >> >>Regards >>Frank >> >>Bob, you have more experience of life and I will not interfere in the >>problematic with Bionic and Voyager. People make mistakes (I make mistakes and >>you make mistakes, Gabi and Hans make mistakes) but it`s better to forget the >>story. > > >I had forgotten. But then someone posted a tournament result based on a program >named "bionic". I see no reason to not mention what bionic was... any more >than I see any valid reason to _ever_ include bionic, voyager, or le petite, >in _any_ tournament of any kind... > >But if someone wants to include those 'clones', I plan on at least making the >note that it is really crafty, which I don't like to see... I think a reason is my webpage. Here user can found results of Bionic and Voyager and a detail page of Bionic Impakt. I will not delete the tournaments or the detail page (a lot of work and time for testing). Maybe, it`s better to say program x or y have Crafty code ! Frank
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