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Subject: Re: Crafty vs Commercials

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 14:33:38 04/08/00

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On April 08, 2000 at 12:35:56, James T. Walker wrote:

>On April 07, 2000 at 13:42:15, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On April 07, 2000 at 12:51:28, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>Just to show you the difference of AMD K6 III 450 over Pentium II and III
>>>I have these Fritzmark figures with F6a and 64 MB hash:
>>>
>>>PII -333 320 KN/S
>>>PIII-500 475 KN/S
>>>PIII-550 515 KN/S
>>>
>>>AMDK6  II 450 452 KN/S
>>>AMDK6 III 450 480 KN/S
>>>
>>>As you can tell there is a big advantage in hardware when you pit Crafty 17.07
>>>against Fritz 6a using a PII-333 the difference is enourmous exactly 160 KN/S
>>>more.
>>
>>Your data does not prove advantage in hardware because fritz mark are relevant
>>for Fritz5.32 and not for Fritz6a or crafty.
>>
>>Your data only proves that Fritz5.32 does not like pII-333.
>>
>>Uri
>
>It also shows a 50% increase in NPS which is about what I get with Fritz 6a so
>the argument, although valid still means only about 30-40 ELO points difference
>which is not an "enourmous" difference.  This is about equal to 1/2 point out > of 10.

But it is still valid only for Fritz.  Do a Crafty benchmark with these two
processors, and they will be almost the same.  So you might as well give Crafty
equal hardware (PII-333) to what Fritz was using, because Crafty runs the same
speed either way.  At least for the 'real' Crafty (non-Chessbase version) it
works this way.

If you gave Fritz the faster machine, it would go 160K NPS faster, but Crafty
would be going the same speed as before.  Now who has the real hardware
advantage?



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