Author: James T. Walker
Date: 09:35:56 04/08/00
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On April 07, 2000 at 13:42:15, blass uri wrote: >On April 07, 2000 at 12:51:28, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On April 07, 2000 at 00:03:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 06, 2000 at 22:32:29, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On April 06, 2000 at 18:07:32, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 06, 2000 at 15:51:44, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 06, 2000 at 10:59:33, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I have started a series of matches using the Crafty 17.07 of Chessbase site vs >>>>>>>the commercial programs 1. Fritz 6 2. Junior 6 Chess Tiger 12.0e 3. Hiarcs >>>>>>>7.32. The commercial programs will be running on a PII-333 and Crafty is >>>>>>>running on a K6-3-450. All programs will be given 64 Meg for hash tables. All >>>>>>>will be using their own book except for Crafty which I gave the General.ctg book >>>>>>>of Fritz 5.32. Following is the first 6 games Crafty 17.07 vs Fritz 6. All >>>>>>>time controls will be 40/2 + 20/1 + G/30. >>>>> >>>>><SNIP> >>>>> >>>>>>Since there is a big difference in hardware and I see that you are pitting for >>>>>>example Fritz 6 against Crafty 17.07 a least twice, I strongly recommend you to >>>>>>switch computer and allow fritz 6 and Junior 6 to use the AMD K6 III 450 Mhz, >>>>>>and crafty 17.07 to use the Pentium 333, then the comparison is considered >>>>>>equal. >>>>> >>>>>There is not a big advantage in hardware. For Crafty, a K62-450 runs almost at >>>>>the same speed as a PII-333. If you switched hardware, Crafty would run at the >>>>>same speed, but Fritz/Junior/etc. would have the hardware advantage. >>>> >>>>Just for your information, I'm running Crafty on a K6-3-450 and Crafty is almost >>>>50% faster than on the PII-333. That still is only about 40 ELO points max. >>>>Jim Walker >>> >>> >>>K6 3 is significantly better than the K6 2... >> >>Just to show you the difference of AMD K6 III 450 over Pentium II and III >>I have these Fritzmark figures with F6a and 64 MB hash: >> >>PII -333 320 KN/S >>PIII-500 475 KN/S >>PIII-550 515 KN/S >> >>AMDK6 II 450 452 KN/S >>AMDK6 III 450 480 KN/S >> >>As you can tell there is a big advantage in hardware when you pit Crafty 17.07 >>against Fritz 6a using a PII-333 the difference is enourmous exactly 160 KN/S >>more. > >Your data does not prove advantage in hardware because fritz mark are relevant >for Fritz5.32 and not for Fritz6a or crafty. > >Your data only proves that Fritz5.32 does not like pII-333. > >Uri It also shows a 50% increase in NPS which is about what I get with Fritz 6a so the argument, although valid still means only about 30-40 ELO points difference which is not an "enourmous" difference. This is about equal to 1/2 point out of 10. Jim Walker
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