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Subject: Re: Finally we know how good Crafty is...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:16:51 04/11/00

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On April 11, 2000 at 22:32:42, James T. Walker wrote:

>*************
>For a quick education, go to ICC and do a search on "TheComputer" vs "Crafty".
>See if you can tell anything from the "Trends".  Guess when "TheComputer"
>started using Fritz6 if you can.  I'll bet it's pretty easy.  But of course none
>of this supports your opinion.  By the way I believe that "TheComputer" is
>running on a K6-3-450.
>*************
>


First, I have learned to never trust finger notes.  For reasons unknown to
me, most people running commercial engines like to 'fudge' their hardware
configuration.

Second, you can't draw _any_ conclusions by looking at "crafty" on ICC.
Remeber that is where _I_ do my testing/debugging.  And I have broken it
many times.  You only have to look at the history info you mentioned to
see that something was up.  It started off with crafty at 3150, then it
dropped to 2700-2800 for most of the games, and then slowly climbed back to
its present 3100 level.  During much of that time crafty was broken with some
known bugs...

Finally, I don't really care _where_ I am relative to the commercial engines.
It is obvious that I do some things differently than they do, particularly
against the 'draw-king' humans.  I consider that a much more interesting problem
to solve at present, while the commercial programs are still having serious
problems with them, but spending their time trying to compete for number 1 on
the SSDF.  My goal is different.  Which doesn't mean their goals are wrong.
Just 'different' from mine...

I'm surprised it did as well as it did on the SSDF... that isn't a priority
at all.  All of my tuning is done after watching human games, not computer
games.





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