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Subject: Re: Quick Poll: predict Fritz' finish at the Dutch Championship.

Author: José Antônio Fabiano Mendes

Date: 12:15:58 04/25/00

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On April 25, 2000 at 09:29:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 25, 2000 at 05:06:25, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>On April 24, 2000 at 18:10:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 24, 2000 at 18:02:28, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 24, 2000 at 16:50:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 24, 2000 at 05:10:08, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here are the 12 entrants and their ratings.  Where will Fritz finish?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>J Piket 2643
>>>>>>L van Wely 2646
>>>>>>D Reinderman 2561
>>>>>>J van der Wiel 2558
>>>>>>E van den Doel 2522
>>>>>>F Nijboer 2540
>>>>>>D de Vreugt 2498
>>>>>>M Bosboom 2461
>>>>>>H Grooten 2393
>>>>>>
>>>>>>invited:
>>>>>>S Tiviakov 2567
>>>>>>P van der Sterren 2526
>>>>>>Fritz SSS*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>My best guess is going to be right in the middle of the pack.  The only wild-
>>>>>card is that van der Sterren won't play it, and giving it an automatic 1 there
>>>>>is a big plus.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think the interesting thing will be the last half of the games, after it has
>>>>>played several good players and everyone has a chance to study it a bit...  I'd
>>>>>be highly surprised to find it winning this unless this is a game/60 or game/30
>>>>>type event.  I didn't see the time control...  what does it look like???  if it
>>>>>is one of the faster limits I gave above, then my opinion will revise upward to
>>>>>somewhere in the top 3 or so...
>>>>
>>>>Hi!
>>>>
>>>>I have talked with a lot of strong players and almost each and anyone analyzes
>>>>and plays with Fritz all day long. This is one of the reasons that Fritz can
>>>>have a tough time against humans.
>>>>
>>>>Bertil
>>>
>>>
>>>That is one problem, to be sure.  There are others, including 'endgame skill'
>>>that will get it into serious trouble if the game reaches that stage...
>>
>>Probably not. I think Fritz6 is the best endgame player available. In my very
>>hard endgame test suite Fritz6a scores incredible 43/45 (Crafty xx.xx scores
>>40/45 and is second best).
>>
>>Jouni
>
>
>In the games I have watched on ICC, Fritz doesn't understand some basic ideas
>like pawn majorities.  It is pretty good at making a passed pawn and pushing it,
>but it will trade into a dead lost ending without knowing it is doing so until
>it is too late...
>
>that can be serious once it is understood by humans.  I had a big hole there
>and a couple of GMs discovered it and beat me like a drum until I fixed it.  It
>took a while for it to become noticed, but once it was...  Fortunately another
>GM spotted it and pointed it out to me as needing attention...

Speaking of passed pawns,here is an interesting recent game: [in Spanish]
http://www.elpais.es/p/d/20000425/deportes/aje.htm
Fritz will finish in the fifth place(just a wild guess!).  JAFM



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