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Subject: Re: Quick Poll: predict Fritz' finish at the Dutch Championship.

Author: Mark Schreiber

Date: 15:58:57 04/25/00

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On April 25, 2000 at 15:19:39, blass uri wrote:

>On April 25, 2000 at 14:10:07, Mark Schreiber wrote:
>
>>On April 24, 2000 at 09:52:44, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>
>>>On April 24, 2000 at 07:31:28, Mark Schreiber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 24, 2000 at 05:10:08, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Here are the 12 entrants and their ratings.  Where will Fritz finish?
>>>>>
>>>>>J Piket 2643
>>>>>L van Wely 2646
>>>>>D Reinderman 2561
>>>>>J van der Wiel 2558
>>>>>E van den Doel 2522
>>>>>F Nijboer 2540
>>>>>D de Vreugt 2498
>>>>>M Bosboom 2461
>>>>>H Grooten 2393
>>>>>
>>>>>invited:
>>>>>S Tiviakov 2567
>>>>>P van der Sterren 2526
>>>>>Fritz SSS*
>>>>
>>>>I think number 3 or higher. You might include Fritz SSDF rating of 2721 on
>>>>slower hardware as a reference.
>>>
>>>Hi:  Just for fun, I'll go in the opposite direction and pick Fritz to finish in
>>>ninth position, behind the 2500's but ahead of the 2400's.  My guess is that
>>>Fritz' performance in the Israeli League (2461 rating) is more indicative of its
>>>strength against human opposition, though I admit there are fewer games to judge
>>>by, and software and hardware could be improved.  Well, we'll see!
>>>Cheers,
>>>Mark
>>
>>I think the Israeli league unfortunately is not a good indicator. The operators
>>sometimes made mistakes. The Dutch national will have a stronger version of the
>>program and faster hardware. I hope the operators are prepared.
>
>You are right that the hardware is faster relative to the israeli league.
>
>I do not know of an operator mistake in computer-human games in the Israeli
>league.
>The only operator mistakes in the Israeli league that I know about are my
>mistakes in the game Rebel-shredder and the mistakes of the operators in the
>game Fritz-shredder when Fritz's operator offered a draw and shredder's operator
>did not accept the offer and lost the game.
>
>Do you know about an operator mistake of Fritz against humans in the Israeli
>league?
>
>I saw that Fritz did not use tablebases in the Israeli league but I doubt if
>tablebases could help it.
>
>Uri
Sorry, I confused the computers. The Dutch national should give a more accurate
performance than the Israel league because there will be more games.



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