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Subject: Re: Dutch championship question (Frederic)

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 03:04:15 05/08/00

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On May 08, 2000 at 05:26:08, Tony Werten wrote:

>On May 08, 2000 at 04:42:23, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 2000 at 03:38:07, CLiebert wrote:
>>
>>>On May 08, 2000 at 01:38:11, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Fritz will not have access to its endgame modules"
>>>>
>>>>What is this meaning?? Fritz is not playing with full strength!! Pity...
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>
>>>Humans havn´t acess to endgame bases too.
>>>Equal chances.
>>>Thats the reason for this I assume.
>>>But if this is the reason fritz shouldn´t use his powerbooks too?!
>>>It´s the same matter and seems to be consequent under these considerations.
>>>But may be the book access is accepted as an essential part of a chess
>>>program today. Question of definition ...
>>>
>>>Christian
>>
>>I think it is better to give humans excess to endgame tablebases instead of not
>>giving the computer excess to endgame tablebases.
>>
>>I do not like doing things that reduce the level of the computers.
>>
>>If humans think that computers are too strong it is better to help the humans
>>and not to reduce the level of the computers.
>>
>>I do not think that programs are too strong and I think that there is no
>>justification to give humans equal conditions about tablebases.
>>
>>Other possible idea for the future when programs become stronger are:
>>
>>1)Letting humans to use chess books(computer programs are also allowed to do
>>it).
>>
>>2)Letting humans to move pieces in another board and to write notes to help them
>>to play better.
>>
>>3)Letting both sides to take back moves in the game when for every take back you
>>have less 5 minutes on the clock so you cannot take back moves forever or in
>>time trouble.
>>
>>Uri
>
>4) Aknowledge that computers are different from chessplayers. If this gives too
>much problems do not let the computer play.
>
>The discussions over the differences usually are silly. Fritz does not use
>oxygen so neither can the players ? Fritz has 220 volts in his butt so ...

... so finally humans could autoplay, isn't it? I wonder about the signal to
noise ratio, though.

Enrique

>Tony



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