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Subject: Re: Dutch championship question (Frederic)

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 03:20:07 05/08/00

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On May 08, 2000 at 06:04:15, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On May 08, 2000 at 05:26:08, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 2000 at 04:42:23, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On May 08, 2000 at 03:38:07, CLiebert wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 08, 2000 at 01:38:11, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Fritz will not have access to its endgame modules"
>>>>>
>>>>>What is this meaning?? Fritz is not playing with full strength!! Pity...
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Humans havn´t acess to endgame bases too.
>>>>Equal chances.
>>>>Thats the reason for this I assume.
>>>>But if this is the reason fritz shouldn´t use his powerbooks too?!
>>>>It´s the same matter and seems to be consequent under these considerations.
>>>>But may be the book access is accepted as an essential part of a chess
>>>>program today. Question of definition ...
>>>>
>>>>Christian
>>>
>>>I think it is better to give humans excess to endgame tablebases instead of not
>>>giving the computer excess to endgame tablebases.
>>>
>>>I do not like doing things that reduce the level of the computers.
>>>
>>>If humans think that computers are too strong it is better to help the humans
>>>and not to reduce the level of the computers.
>>>
>>>I do not think that programs are too strong and I think that there is no
>>>justification to give humans equal conditions about tablebases.
>>>
>>>Other possible idea for the future when programs become stronger are:
>>>
>>>1)Letting humans to use chess books(computer programs are also allowed to do
>>>it).
>>>
>>>2)Letting humans to move pieces in another board and to write notes to help them
>>>to play better.
>>>
>>>3)Letting both sides to take back moves in the game when for every take back you
>>>have less 5 minutes on the clock so you cannot take back moves forever or in
>>>time trouble.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>4) Aknowledge that computers are different from chessplayers. If this gives too
>>much problems do not let the computer play.
>>
>>The discussions over the differences usually are silly. Fritz does not use
>>oxygen so neither can the players ? Fritz has 220 volts in his butt so ...
>
>... so finally humans could autoplay, isn't it? I wonder about the signal to
>noise ratio, though.

I think the noise will fade away, after a couple of minutes.

Tony
>
>Enrique
>
>>Tony



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