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Subject: Re: Dutch championship question (Frederic)

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 03:09:05 05/08/00

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On May 08, 2000 at 05:55:24, Martin Schubert wrote:

>On May 08, 2000 at 05:26:27, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 2000 at 05:16:21, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On May 08, 2000 at 05:12:51, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 08, 2000 at 03:38:07, CLiebert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 08, 2000 at 01:38:11, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Fritz will not have access to its endgame modules"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What is this meaning?? Fritz is not playing with full strength!! Pity...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Humans havn´t acess to endgame bases too.
>>>>>Equal chances.
>>>>>Thats the reason for this I assume.
>>>>>But if this is the reason fritz shouldn´t use his powerbooks too?!
>>>>>It´s the same matter and seems to be consequent under these considerations.
>>>>>But may be the book access is accepted as an essential part of a chess
>>>>>program today. Question of definition ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Christian
>>>>
>>>>Neither do humans have an opening book available. So, Fritz should start without
>>>>book.
>>>
>>>I agree that the demand not to use tablebases is not fair but the comparison
>>>here is wrong.
>>>
>>>Humans remember openings but they do not remember tablebases of distance to
>>>mate.
>>
>>Exactly! And don't forget that humans get tired, while computers don't, so let's
>>unplug them every now and then. And what about this indecent crushing of one
>>million positions per second? Anything faster than a Z80 must be prohibited.
>>Fair is fair!
>>
>>Come on, Uri. Computers and humans should both play at their best, and this
>>includes tablebases. Anything else is artificial and distorted.
>>
>I think, it's not fair to give the computers access to the whole opening theory,
>endgame theory, that humans doesn't have.

Yep. It's unfair to give computers access to anything that humans don't have.
Computers should play without chips.

On the other hand, in the name of fairness humans should not have access to
anything that computers don't have: eyes, ears...

Enrique

>Martin Schubert
>
>>Enrique
>>
>>>Uri



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