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Subject: Re: Dutch championship question (Frederic)

Author: Martin Schubert

Date: 03:43:28 05/08/00

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On May 08, 2000 at 06:09:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On May 08, 2000 at 05:55:24, Martin Schubert wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 2000 at 05:26:27, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On May 08, 2000 at 05:16:21, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 08, 2000 at 05:12:51, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 08, 2000 at 03:38:07, CLiebert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 08, 2000 at 01:38:11, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Fritz will not have access to its endgame modules"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What is this meaning?? Fritz is not playing with full strength!! Pity...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Humans havn´t acess to endgame bases too.
>>>>>>Equal chances.
>>>>>>Thats the reason for this I assume.
>>>>>>But if this is the reason fritz shouldn´t use his powerbooks too?!
>>>>>>It´s the same matter and seems to be consequent under these considerations.
>>>>>>But may be the book access is accepted as an essential part of a chess
>>>>>>program today. Question of definition ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>Neither do humans have an opening book available. So, Fritz should start without
>>>>>book.
>>>>
>>>>I agree that the demand not to use tablebases is not fair but the comparison
>>>>here is wrong.
>>>>
>>>>Humans remember openings but they do not remember tablebases of distance to
>>>>mate.
>>>
>>>Exactly! And don't forget that humans get tired, while computers don't, so let's
>>>unplug them every now and then. And what about this indecent crushing of one
>>>million positions per second? Anything faster than a Z80 must be prohibited.
>>>Fair is fair!
>>>
>>>Come on, Uri. Computers and humans should both play at their best, and this
>>>includes tablebases. Anything else is artificial and distorted.
>>>
>>I think, it's not fair to give the computers access to the whole opening theory,
>>endgame theory, that humans doesn't have.
>
>Yep. It's unfair to give computers access to anything that humans don't have.
>Computers should play without chips.
>
>On the other hand, in the name of fairness humans should not have access to
>anything that computers don't have: eyes, ears...
>

Harhar!

Martin

>Enrique
>
>>Martin Schubert
>>
>>>Enrique
>>>
>>>>Uri



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