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Subject: Re: Chessfun and Nunn1 Tests

Author: blass uri

Date: 22:22:21 05/11/00

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On May 11, 2000 at 23:52:29, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On May 11, 2000 at 23:04:43, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>Just that it was implied that I had no idea, when in fact I know
>>the time control he used.
>
>Then there's nothing to worry about then.
>
>>I have had F6 since it came out, have read the manual and see no way
>>for it to be turned off. OTOH if by default it is on where this saved
>>learning goes I have no idea. I am curious and will email Mathias to see
>>what he can tell me.....I will post his reply.
>>
>>I also sought out Jouni's post:108723
>>"I test with LG2000 (and other engines) with learn off always."
>
>Well done, this was the post I was referring to, even though I let him off the
>hook regarding cross examination.
>
>>True you suggested it and I believe Pavel (not sure) then posted that
>>it checked out ok. To which again I checked it and found it a problem
>>which he then agreed with.
>
>Yes, which means... what?
>
>>True you never mentioned my Easter Tourney, but by your own post
>>earlier today that was just a tourney.
>
>Just supplying another example to try and remove your suspicion about
>persecution.
>
>>As far as the SSDF goes you say above you would be speculating about the SSDF
>>and yet in another post in reply to my "I dare say not much difference
>>between what I was doing and how the SSDF test."
>>
>>You wrote in post:
>>http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?109341
>>Which I never adressed till now :-)
>>
>>"Since the tests were so clinical, how come you haven't got _any_
>>comparable data whatsoever? Comparing your own test to the ones made by SSDF,
>>reveals ignorance concerning the work effort invested by the members of the
>>SSDF,
>>which I find distasteful. Like your test, your sense of proportion needs to be
>>calibrated correctly."
>>
>>And now you write:
>>"Unfortunately they are not as forthcoming with information as you are
>>regarding their tests"
>>Does this also reveal your own ignorance of the work of the SSDF
>>.... and do you find this equally distasteful?.
>
>No, it doesn't and I don't there's anything distatseful. On the data available I
>don't see any reason to doubt the testing methods of SSDF, nor the majority of
>the games played. I'll leave the critical questions to Uri, but there haven't
>been that many obvious or unexplainable problems with the games posted AFAIK.


I did not check most of the ssdf games.
I have Junior5 so I could find that Junior5 did not use the right book but I did
not check most of the data that the ssdf post here.

In most of the cases I have not the right program to check and even if I have
the right program I am too lazy to check all the moves.

I believe that there are problems that I did not find.

Uri



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