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Subject: Re: Chessfun and Nunn1 Tests

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 20:52:29 05/11/00

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On May 11, 2000 at 23:04:43, Chessfun wrote:

>Just that it was implied that I had no idea, when in fact I know
>the time control he used.

Then there's nothing to worry about then.

>I have had F6 since it came out, have read the manual and see no way
>for it to be turned off. OTOH if by default it is on where this saved
>learning goes I have no idea. I am curious and will email Mathias to see
>what he can tell me.....I will post his reply.
>
>I also sought out Jouni's post:108723
>"I test with LG2000 (and other engines) with learn off always."

Well done, this was the post I was referring to, even though I let him off the
hook regarding cross examination.

>True you suggested it and I believe Pavel (not sure) then posted that
>it checked out ok. To which again I checked it and found it a problem
>which he then agreed with.

Yes, which means... what?

>True you never mentioned my Easter Tourney, but by your own post
>earlier today that was just a tourney.

Just supplying another example to try and remove your suspicion about
persecution.

>As far as the SSDF goes you say above you would be speculating about the SSDF
>and yet in another post in reply to my "I dare say not much difference
>between what I was doing and how the SSDF test."
>
>You wrote in post:
>http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?109341
>Which I never adressed till now :-)
>
>"Since the tests were so clinical, how come you haven't got _any_
>comparable data whatsoever? Comparing your own test to the ones made by SSDF,
>reveals ignorance concerning the work effort invested by the members of the
>SSDF,
>which I find distasteful. Like your test, your sense of proportion needs to be
>calibrated correctly."
>
>And now you write:
>"Unfortunately they are not as forthcoming with information as you are
>regarding their tests"
>Does this also reveal your own ignorance of the work of the SSDF
>.... and do you find this equally distasteful?.

No, it doesn't and I don't there's anything distatseful. On the data available I
don't see any reason to doubt the testing methods of SSDF, nor the majority of
the games played. I'll leave the critical questions to Uri, but there haven't
been that many obvious or unexplainable problems with the games posted AFAIK.
That you decide to perform a few blitz and standard tests doesn't put you in the
same league by a longshot. At the time you didn't have any comparable data to my
knowledge and the SSDF did, so I have a hard time seeing your point of view, nor
finding anything wrong with mine.

Sincerely,
Mogens



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