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Subject: Re: Top players' club?

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 08:11:21 05/12/00

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On May 12, 2000 at 06:48:33, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On May 12, 2000 at 04:20:55, Frederic Friedel wrote:
>
>In his best years, between 1974 and 1992, Karpov had an average Elo of 2710. But
>in 1994-1996 he had his highest Elo ever, average 2770, peak of 2780 at age 43.
>
>Beliavsky: average of 2640 in his best years (1979-1995), but a peak of 2710 in
>1997, age 43.
>
>Looking at the rating of elite players active for the last 20 years, there is a
>general trend upwards, prominent from end eighties until now.
>
>I don't know if this proves anything, but it seems to back up the idea of rating
>inflation in the last 10 or 15 years.
>
>Enrique

I agree, but I think it's the entire rating list. Interestingly, this coincides
with the lowering of the FIDE rating entry level from 2200 to 2000.

                                      Albert Silver

>
>>Posted by James Robertson on May 11, 2000 at 19:50:03:
>>
>>> Kramnik refuted this argument in an artical shortly after the FIDE WC. He took
>>> the win percentages of the top "inflated" players against all lower rated
>>> players in the last 5 or so years and the statistics showed the higher rated
>>> players winning very near the percentage expected against the lower rated
>>> players.
>>
>>It was a memorable contribution in Schach 10/1999 pp18-19. Everyone was
>>discussing how a small group of about nine top players build a club and always
>>play amongst themselves, keeping their ratings artificially high and not letting
>>other equally strong players improve their ratings. The impression was this was
>>a kind of cartel that prevented a lot of players from receiving their due.
>>Vladimir's contribution was simple: let's just take a look at the numbers. He
>>lists the results of the nine "club members" from 1995 until the time of writing
>>against the "suppressed elite" -- GMs between 2550 and 2670.
>>
>>1. Kasparov   +41  -04   =33
>>2. Anand      +47  -06   =40
>>3. Kramnik    +59  -07   =70
>>4. Shirov     +79  -35  =108
>>5. Adams      +71  -31  =120
>>6. Ivanchuk   +47  -11   =74
>>7. Karpov     +30  -07   =58
>>8. Gelfand    +38  -11  =102
>>9. Topalov    +65  -25   =71
>>Total        +447 -137  =676
>>
>>"I think these figures require no further commentary", Vladimir wrote.



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