Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 02:26:39 05/15/00
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On May 14, 2000 at 21:51:46, Hans Gerber wrote: >On May 14, 2000 at 19:49:13, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >> >>It's not about science, it's about dead horses being beaten for years. I'm not >>going to defend either side. I think IBM approached the problem with their >>marketing team at the point, and I think Kasparov blew up like a >>high-performance racing engine that was revved for an extended period while >>under no load. But it happened three years ago, and most of us tired of hearing >>either side of this long ago. >> >>bruce >> > >Please don't think for a second that this has to do with any secondary motives >when I write this here: > >In the light of the results of our debate here I can only alarm you to take the >science question very serious. You put a lot of energy into your work. But >without a minimum of control of the output of the machines no human will >seriously participate in challenges or matches against your program. > >I am astonished that you could interprete my contribution as boring and stupid. > >With my questions I tried to lead your attention to the necessity to find new >methods, new paradigms to save computerchess as such. And as fast as you can. > >Look at the internet. Serious championships won't happen because there is no >possibility to guarantee honest play without unallowed helps. Don't wait until >computers are excluded from chess because the problem of cheating isn't openly >discussed. > >Perhaps you can now understand why I took the old event as an example. R. Hyatt >still today is convinced that Kasparov asked unallowed, ugly questions; and at >the same time R. Hyatt explains that nobody could do anything against >cheating... It is easy to interpert you arguments as boring and stupid, as the WHOLE discussion is boring and stupid. The match ended, IBM made a bussiness descion, Kasparov will NEVER play Deep Blue again. Lets move on to something a little more current, hmm something that happened in this century. Jason
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