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Subject: Re: No Position Learning in Fritz

Author: Chessfun

Date: 10:09:03 05/15/00

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On May 14, 2000 at 10:12:57, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On May 13, 2000 at 09:22:51, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2000 at 03:11:28, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2000 at 01:14:33, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>It would seem from Mathias email that is true.
>>>>It is a little confusing since earlier Christophe and Dr. Hyatt were
>>>>writing about the issue. Christophe wrote it could be turned off
>>>>as position learning wouldn't help the tests and Dr. Hyatt wrote against
>>>>the idea of turning it off. Could be that Dr. Hyatt wasn't aware learning
>>>>was off in the Fritz GUI. Or was there some confusion as they may have been
>>>>thinking of book learning which is irrelevant with Nunn 1.
>>>
>>>Apparently neither Christophe Theron nor Dr. Hyatt (nor I and others, except
>>>maybe Pavel) were aware of the lack of positional learning, but they don't own a
>>>copy of the program AFAIK. You own a copy of Fritz, so who do you think there is
>>>to blame? If it been known beforehand, then a _lot_ of controversy and useless
>>>posts could have been avoided.
>>
>>
>>Not really true. Since the issue of positional learning was just another
>>issue related to testing parameters. Posts on the issue were just questions
>>within a myriad of other questions.
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>I don't think positional learning can be described as "just another question".
>Since you "became so interested in computer chess that" you "gave up playing and
>spent that time testing computer programs", one might assume that you were aware
>of the question.

Testing programs is a hobby. You like the others posing the question had
as much right to know if it existed or not, otherwise that would make any
question regardless of relevance ok. Others posting in those threads had F6.

>Speculating about the knowledge or awareness of Dr. Hyatts or
>others regarding this issue is rather irrelevant,

Dr. Hyatt as the author of Crafty I see as relevant, though I also see
from a post he made at rgcc that he didn't know. I like others assumed
that the chessbase version was identical in all regards except opening book.

 unless you suspect that
>someone wasn't telling the truth about it. Myriads of questions have a tendency
>to develop when there's a lack of answers, especially good ones.

Again, we have been over this before. I think for the amount of testing and
games played the amount of questions in relation were extreme. Further, I
think I answered all questions, I answered them clearly and truthfully being
as clear as I could be.

>PS: I hope you are getting your IP search in gear, 'cause the clock is ticking.

The IP of tony worsman appears to be from a much different location than yours.
I apologize for stating you were he, and implying you were using more than
one ID.

Thanks.





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