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Subject: Re: Suffering from Brain Washes --- corrected version

Author: Ingo Althofer

Date: 07:16:35 11/05/97

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On November 05, 1997 at 10:11:33, Ingo Althofer wrote:
Sorry. My design of the original posting gave the wrong impression that
Bruce Moreland had posted something which was my comment. The problem is
that I can not write comfortably within my text browser "lynx".
>I want to apologize for my comment on Shredder's strength in Blitz
>chess. I did not intend to give a bad review of Shredder. But I have
>to admit that certain observations from several sources had brought me
>to the
>opinion that Shredder might be not this strong in Blitz. To give you
>some insights: (a) In the manual of Shredder I it is said that Shredder
>is stronger in long time games than in Blitz.  (b) If you as a human
>play Blitz against Shredder according to the internal clock of Shredder
>you will be able to beat it by time! This is a total exception among the
>top commercial programs. Thanks to Stefan for designing its clock
>mechanism this honestly. However, I got the very wrong impression that a
>program which loses on time on its own clock can not be this strong. Of
>course this is nonsense ...  (c) In almost all media it was said that
>Shredder is not strong in Blitz. I became accustomed to  ( or
>brainwashed by ) this --- which led to my remark in the afterthoughts.
>To make it clear, I never played any Blitz games with Shredder against
>other programs, so I do not really know about its Blitz strength
>relative to other programs. My personal score in Blitz against Shredder
>( with the internal clock of Shredder ) is +3 =0 -8. I learned in game 8
>that Shredder might lose according to its own clock and was able to get
>two more wins in games 9 and 11. In all the other games I was mated.
>
>On November 02, 1997 at 06:51:04, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>>    ....   The key point is that Stefan
>>>    Meyer-Kahlen is an operator of professional calibre... Maybe
>>>    his operating skills are good for 20 percent of Shredder's points.
Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>This has come to be a typical comment about Shredder.
>>
>>If Shredder has a good result, a reason must be found, since it can't be
>>anything to do with the program itself.
>>
>>I don't know why people are so intensely interested in picking on
>>Stefan, I have never read a good review of Shredder.
>>Bruce

>During my 3-Hirn match against GM Yusupov in Shuffle Chess
>Shredder 1.5 was one of the programs ( with k-best mode ) which I used.
>And Shredder was a strong part in this 3-Hirn.
>Apologies again for giving a wrong impression.  Ingo Althoefer.



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