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Subject: Re: Anonymous accounts policy

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 00:56:20 06/30/00

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On June 30, 2000 at 01:21:54, Vincent Vega wrote:

>On June 29, 2000 at 23:13:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 29, 2000 at 20:11:57, ujecrh wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>This is the first time in 7 years that I take part to a moderation thread
>>>because I am very disapointed here. Not about this particular moderation but
>>>about this rule in CCC (that I was not aware of) which forces people to identify
>>>themselves.
>>
>>
>>Sorry, but it is a _good_ policy.  Anonymous posters can get away with saying
>>anything they want with no fear of reprisal of any kind.  What about those of
>>use that use our _real_ name?  Do we have to put up with nonsense with no way
>>to stop it?
>
>So they can say anything they want without a fear of reprisal.  This is called
>freedom of speech.  When did this become a bad thing?  You don't have any right
>not to be offended.

I don't understand this view at all. You can't behave like this in real life.
Why should this place be any different? To be clear, you wouldn't wander into
a library or a church or a school or a place of work and say anything you
wanted. Why should you be able to do that here?

>
>I believe that anybody using a real name on a public Internet forum must place
>no value on his privacy.  I would advise everybody that does that to just
>remember that _everything_ you post will be recorded _forever_ and viewable by
>_anyone_.
>

I believe being accountable for what you write or say is part of being an adult.

>>
>>In another 5 years there won't be any 'anonymous internet users'.  The public
>>simply won't stand for it much longer.
>>
>
>
>In another 5 years there will many more ways to use the Internet anonymously.
>Look at initiatives like FreeNet.  Look at popularity of encryption.  Look at
>uproar over web sites that track users or send out private data.  Every major
>message board I've seen allows handles and more and more people use them.  The
>"public" is more bothered by the lack of privacy than by what some anonymous
>poster is saying and rightly so.
>
>If somebody doesn't want to hear what an anonymous poster is saying, the right
>solution is technological, through personal preferences, not through wholesale
>censorship.  Sites like Slashdot have the system for that already in place so
>there isn't even any need to reinvent the wheel.  If something illegal is said,
>the "real name" used with the posts here is so easy to fake that it won't make
>any difference in the court.  The judge will have to subpoena icdchess' records
>to get the IP number and ISP's records to get the poster's identity anyway.


Andrew Williams



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