Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 09:24:07 07/01/00
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On July 01, 2000 at 12:01:03, Dave Gomboc wrote: >On July 01, 2000 at 11:47:50, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: > >>>I guess that we are not going to have in 5-7 years 8 pieces tablebases. >>> >>>I guess that we will even not have the complete 7 pieces tablebases in 5-7 >>>years. >>> >>>calculating the 5 piece tablebases can take at least some weeks and maybe more >>>than a month in the hardare of today(calculating only one 5 piece simple >>>tablebase with no pawns like KQR vs KR takes few hours on my pentiumIII450 and >>>there are many tablebases to calculate when most of them takes more time). >>> >>>calculating all the 6 piece tablesbases will take more time in the hardware of >>>2007 without parallel search(I assume that computers are twice faster every 18 >>>monthes so computers will be less than 30 times faster). >>> >>>parallel search can help but I do not believe it will be enough to generate all >>>the 7 piece tablebases in 2007. >>> >>>There is also a problem of memory and I do not believe that there will be enough >>>memory for the 8 piece tablebases in 2007 >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>Uri, >> >>You may be correct sir. We have eight to ten piece tablebases in checkers now >>but there is a big jump in complexity between chess and checkers. Chinook, the >>world champion checker computer system beats all but the top ten checker players >>in the world and then it usually draws them. Pretty hard to beat a machine that >>says "I win in 100 moves" when you both have three pieces left and the position >>"looks" equal. >> >>It is just a matter of a few years before no human will beat the computers at >>chess. It is sure a bunch of fun getting there. When we get there I am sure >>that we will have more exciting things to do with our computers. >> >>Tim Frohlick > When we get there then the top 10 players on the planet will be training with that particular chess software, and computers will become the best trainer for a human Chess Championship. Also computers will have a greater use by 100% of the chess players on the planet, instead of just 98%. Pichard. >Chinook is better at checkers than anything else on the planet -- by a wide >margin. > >Dave
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