Author: Chris Whittington
Date: 10:36:25 11/13/97
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On November 13, 1997 at 13:25:23, Don Prohaska wrote: >Yes, I have read some very nutty stuff by Rolf and I wondered whether >anybody took him seriously. But, I was also very surprised to find some >very not so nice things said in CCC by who I understand are founding >fathers. Perhaps "do as I say, not as I do." Should we look at >ourselves before we get too holy? I think I would have cleaned up my act >for awhile before I dumped Rolf. Looks better! Probably you're referring to me, and fair comment. I have apologised, if you missed it, then please treat this as another one. Chris Whittington > > > >On November 13, 1997 at 09:53:36, Dan Homan wrote: > >>On November 13, 1997 at 08:52:36, Fernando Villegas wrote: >> >>>What this guy Rolf did to deserve execution? I am not saying nothing >>>against that measure Or in favour of it in priciple, just I want to know >>>what he said HERE that such an unpleasant measure was taken. Until now, >>>without all facts in my hands, I tend to think that a little bit of over >>>reaction is also part of the history. Sorry, maybe I talk about this >>>being myself a kind of Rolf T. in TV and journalistic media in my >>>country. I earn a life critizing with the utmost harshness, so I tend to >>>be tolerant with people that do something of the sort. Of course, >>>personal insults cannot be alouded, but Did he insult anybody here in >>>such personal terms? Really he implied a dirty intrigue? I hope nobody >>>will get angry with me, specially Chris, but sometimes I believe that >>>people specially biased towards harshnes and critic, althought a pain in >>>the ass many times, are a kind of necesary evil. Sometime we tends to be >>>too much lovely and permissive with each other to avoid conflicts and >>>thorought that an amount of hipocrecy, lyes and falsehood is instilled. >>>Now I am afraid to disturb anybody. Almost I have the desire to wipe >>>this post. Once some kind of superior power launch his ukase, things >>>are not anymore the same and you begin to think with double standard: >>>what you wanted to say and what you think the comission could interpret >>>of your thinking. Not pleasant at all. >>>fernando >> >>It seems that Rolf was excluded as a result of his behaviour outside of >>the CCC. >> >>1) Attacking the founders of the CCC from the RGCC >> >>and >> >>2) Using material from the CCC to create crazy conspiracy theories in >>RGCC. >> >>The charter of the CCC does not mention conduct outside of the group. >>However, implicit in the charter is the desire to create a place where >>computer chess ideas can be discussed freely and where members will >>feel safe in contributing to the group. >> >>In the final analysis, Rolf was excluded because his very presence here >>is distruptive. The members of the CCC should feel safe to contribute >>without having their words distorted, twisted, and mis-used in another >>forum. While not violating the letter of the charter, Rolf's behaviour >>violated its spirit. >> >>The founders presumably have the authority to act in the best >>interest of the CCC and have done so in this case. Hopefully, the >>expulsion of CCC members will be an *very* rarely used measure. >> >> - Dan >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Dan Homan dch@vlbi.astro.brandeis.edu >>Physics Department dch@quasar.astro.brandeis.edu >>Brandeis University homan@binah.cc.brandeis.edu >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://quasar.astro.brandeis.edu/BRAG/people/dch.html >>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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