Author: Don Prohaska
Date: 10:25:23 11/13/97
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Yes, I have read some very nutty stuff by Rolf and I wondered whether anybody took him seriously. But, I was also very surprised to find some very not so nice things said in CCC by who I understand are founding fathers. Perhaps "do as I say, not as I do." Should we look at ourselves before we get too holy? I think I would have cleaned up my act for awhile before I dumped Rolf. Looks better! On November 13, 1997 at 09:53:36, Dan Homan wrote: >On November 13, 1997 at 08:52:36, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>What this guy Rolf did to deserve execution? I am not saying nothing >>against that measure Or in favour of it in priciple, just I want to know >>what he said HERE that such an unpleasant measure was taken. Until now, >>without all facts in my hands, I tend to think that a little bit of over >>reaction is also part of the history. Sorry, maybe I talk about this >>being myself a kind of Rolf T. in TV and journalistic media in my >>country. I earn a life critizing with the utmost harshness, so I tend to >>be tolerant with people that do something of the sort. Of course, >>personal insults cannot be alouded, but Did he insult anybody here in >>such personal terms? Really he implied a dirty intrigue? I hope nobody >>will get angry with me, specially Chris, but sometimes I believe that >>people specially biased towards harshnes and critic, althought a pain in >>the ass many times, are a kind of necesary evil. Sometime we tends to be >>too much lovely and permissive with each other to avoid conflicts and >>thorought that an amount of hipocrecy, lyes and falsehood is instilled. >>Now I am afraid to disturb anybody. Almost I have the desire to wipe >>this post. Once some kind of superior power launch his ukase, things >>are not anymore the same and you begin to think with double standard: >>what you wanted to say and what you think the comission could interpret >>of your thinking. Not pleasant at all. >>fernando > >It seems that Rolf was excluded as a result of his behaviour outside of >the CCC. > >1) Attacking the founders of the CCC from the RGCC > >and > >2) Using material from the CCC to create crazy conspiracy theories in >RGCC. > >The charter of the CCC does not mention conduct outside of the group. >However, implicit in the charter is the desire to create a place where >computer chess ideas can be discussed freely and where members will >feel safe in contributing to the group. > >In the final analysis, Rolf was excluded because his very presence here >is distruptive. The members of the CCC should feel safe to contribute >without having their words distorted, twisted, and mis-used in another >forum. While not violating the letter of the charter, Rolf's behaviour >violated its spirit. > >The founders presumably have the authority to act in the best >interest of the CCC and have done so in this case. Hopefully, the >expulsion of CCC members will be an *very* rarely used measure. > > - Dan > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Dan Homan dch@vlbi.astro.brandeis.edu >Physics Department dch@quasar.astro.brandeis.edu >Brandeis University homan@binah.cc.brandeis.edu >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://quasar.astro.brandeis.edu/BRAG/people/dch.html >---------------------------------------------------------------------
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