Author: Dirk Frickenschmidt
Date: 11:55:27 11/13/97
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Hi Don, I understand your point. But: The difference I see is not only that someone like Chris has no problems in apologizing when something went wrong - I would do that like him if it happened to me - but (even more important) that there is a big differnce in behaviour over a longer period. Chris is a bit agressive from time to time and very constructive most of the time. Rolf Tueschen in contrast does not and at no time behave like a sane member of anything. I don't hate him, but feel pity for him and his problems. And and don't think we should allow him to hurt structures and persons constantly. Tueschen's problems lead to a kind of behaviour that has for a *very* long time been destroying any normal conversation within rgcc soon as he he has been involved in any thread - and he likes to get involved in threads as soon as he his disturbed soul smells soemthing like a communication partner not yet warned of what may follow. He then in a very strange way misuses any person not only after getting feedback (normal try for any lonely person), but then trying an evil mix of provoking, nice on-topics from time to time, personal flatteries, strange allegations, extremely strange cospiration theories, mean insults and whatever else. So excluding him is not so much an act of revenge (though I know the anger about his long, long track of destruction is not small amoung those who had to learn about it) but more a neccessary decision: At least not allowing him to misuse CCC postings as material for new allegations and at least not sinking so low to have him write constantly offensive nonsense about CCC founding members in rgcc while beeing invited by exactly these founding members in CCC. My self respect for one is simply not sick enough to allow such a behaviour, and I was amoung those strongly arguing for excluding him without any little bit of regret. Now I am very glad he is out. And I'm quite shure that any answering him from any of us in the last consequence meant nothing good, but stabilized his severe communication problems. The help he needs definitely seems to be of another kind than playing games with people in CCC and rgcc, even if nobody of us can be shure what exactly he is suffering from and what kind of help he needs. *This* in my eyes is the main reason to deny him further access to CCC: Just not allowing him to disturb and destroy communictaion of good willed people any more - as far as CCC is concerned - and not allowing him to stabilize a questionable state for himself which will in the end only help him not to seek for help but destroy communication in newsgroups instead. Hoping I could make things clearer for you. Kind regards from Dirk
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