Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Samsung Plans Alpha Motherboard Screamers For PC Prices

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:49:48 11/13/97

Go up one level in this thread


On November 13, 1997 at 12:19:31, Chris Carson wrote:

>see article: http://www.currents.net/newstoday/97/11/11/news5.html
>
>Interesting article.   Lots of power 400 to 700 MHZ,
>Lots of RAM (up to 3 gigabytes).
>128 bit cache (up to 4 megabytes L3)
>64 bit power
>Native Windows NT 5.0, no translation needed.
>
>I hope this puts pressure on Intel!!  :)
>
>Looks like 1998 might bring some competition.
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson

I've been impressed with the alpha's since day one.  *however*, there is
one confusing issue I don't have an explanation for yet.

B.T. Fraise had a 533mhz alpha running on ICC.  He was getting around
150K
nodes per second with Crafty, which he runs there as "Data".  Jason used
a
plain vanilla DEC alpha/500mhz in Paris, and we were getting around 250K
nodes per second.  He compared that machine to a P6/200 using the same
OS (NT) and was getting around 80K.  So the /500 gave us 250/80 speedup
which is a factor of 3.1

Data went from 80K to 150K, which was less than 2.0 speedup.  Even
worse,
on his alpha, we saw *dramatic* speed variations, from 40K to 150K,
running
the *same* test position multiple times.  It seems that there is some
cache
condition that can be badly broken, or *something*.  Because we did not
see
this wild fluctuation on the Digital machines.

main point of all this is that a cheap alpha might be a "cheap alpha".
We
need some data to compare all of these machines, and find out why some
are
dogs and others are vipers.

BTW, there are *new* products coming from DEC.  Stay tuned for some 1ghz
and
up announcements before long. That will be exciting...  I've heard lots
of
rumors from former students that work up there, indicating that their
1ghz
machine will be significantly more than 2x faster than their /500 21164.
Crafty's already drooling.  :)

damned near shorting out my P6 motherboard in fact.  :)



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.