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Subject: Re: Dead Wrong!

Author: blass uri

Date: 07:16:48 07/22/00

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On July 22, 2000 at 10:12:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 22, 2000 at 10:10:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 22, 2000 at 05:39:28, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On July 21, 2000 at 17:34:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 21, 2000 at 16:38:45, blass uri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 21, 2000 at 15:29:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><snipped>
>>>>>>I could promise to let you use my quad xeon in a chess tournament, just as I
>>>>>>have done for Vincent several times.  And someone higher-up here at UAB could
>>>>>>say "no" and "no" it would be.  Beyond my control.
>>>>>
>>>>>If it is something that is not dependent only on you then you should not
>>>>>promise.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can say that you will let Ed to use your quad xeon only if somebody higher
>>>>>will not say no.
>>>>
>>>>Easy to say using 20-20 hindsight.  If I say someone can use my machine, I
>>>>don't have any worry that I will get overruled.  And I have loaned it several
>>>>times in the past.  If I worked for a company like IBM, after having worked
>>>>here for many years, I still might say "yes" and then be surprised when I am
>>>>overruled.  It happens.  Remember that DT was developed and built by graduate
>>>>CS students at CMU.  They were in a grad student environment, in an academic
>>>>environment where openness is everything.  They then found themselves in a
>>>>totally different world at IBM...  a public corporation with profit motives.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Phew, what an argument and excuse for deceit. Let's take it further (sorry for
>>>getting carried away):
>>>
>>>Aren't we lucky that Hsu and Campbell worked for IBM, a company that was merely
>>>cynical and insincere and not much beyond that ?
>>>
>>>Imagine if Hsu and Campbell would have signed for a really evil institution,
>>>like the East German sports ministry. No alternative but to do as they want, and
>>>just following orders.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>
>>
>>Welcome to the "real world".
>>
>>:)
>
>
>THis _really_ pisses me off.  I typed one more character, netscape crashed and
>sent my post off anyway.
>
>I was going to add:
>
>The real world _is_ quite different when you do something for fun, vs when you
>do it to make money.  IBM is about money.  If they weren't, the shareholders
>wouldn't be shareholders...
>
>I don't see anything unusual.

I do not agree that you have the right to lie
if you do something to make money.

Uri



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