Author: Alvaro Polo
Date: 13:11:51 07/22/00
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On July 22, 2000 at 10:16:48, blass uri wrote: >On July 22, 2000 at 10:12:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 22, 2000 at 10:10:17, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On July 22, 2000 at 05:39:28, Amir Ban wrote: >>> >>>>On July 21, 2000 at 17:34:11, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 21, 2000 at 16:38:45, blass uri wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 21, 2000 at 15:29:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>><snipped> >>>>>>>I could promise to let you use my quad xeon in a chess tournament, just as I >>>>>>>have done for Vincent several times. And someone higher-up here at UAB could >>>>>>>say "no" and "no" it would be. Beyond my control. >>>>>> >>>>>>If it is something that is not dependent only on you then you should not >>>>>>promise. >>>>>> >>>>>>You can say that you will let Ed to use your quad xeon only if somebody higher >>>>>>will not say no. >>>>> >>>>>Easy to say using 20-20 hindsight. If I say someone can use my machine, I >>>>>don't have any worry that I will get overruled. And I have loaned it several >>>>>times in the past. If I worked for a company like IBM, after having worked >>>>>here for many years, I still might say "yes" and then be surprised when I am >>>>>overruled. It happens. Remember that DT was developed and built by graduate >>>>>CS students at CMU. They were in a grad student environment, in an academic >>>>>environment where openness is everything. They then found themselves in a >>>>>totally different world at IBM... a public corporation with profit motives. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Phew, what an argument and excuse for deceit. Let's take it further (sorry for >>>>getting carried away): >>>> >>>>Aren't we lucky that Hsu and Campbell worked for IBM, a company that was merely >>>>cynical and insincere and not much beyond that ? >>>> >>>>Imagine if Hsu and Campbell would have signed for a really evil institution, >>>>like the East German sports ministry. No alternative but to do as they want, and >>>>just following orders. >>>> >>>>Amir >>> >>> >>>Welcome to the "real world". >>> >>>:) >> >> >>THis _really_ pisses me off. I typed one more character, netscape crashed and >>sent my post off anyway. >> >>I was going to add: >> >>The real world _is_ quite different when you do something for fun, vs when you >>do it to make money. IBM is about money. If they weren't, the shareholders >>wouldn't be shareholders... >> >>I don't see anything unusual. > >I do not agree that you have the right to lie >if you do something to make money. > >Uri You don't have the right but if you don't lie (and all advertising, for example, is a lie) you increase your chances of losing money. The economic system makes lies mandatory. It is a matter of survival. Alvaro
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