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Subject: Re: Which Algorithm is considered the best ?

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 02:41:22 08/09/00

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On August 08, 2000 at 15:56:04, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On August 06, 2000 at 16:36:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>Show me an MTD program that uses less nodes a ply as DIEP does.
>>
>>What diep is doing is very simple in search:
>>
>>  PVS (starting with -infinite)
>>  check extensions
>>  checks in qsearch
>>  nullmove R=3
>>  no other crap. no pruning. Perhaps at WMCC i prune a bit,
>>  but that's because against computers playing is different.
>>
>>  Yet i'm missing programs using less nodes a ply with MTD.
>>  I"m missing *any* deep searching program that uses MTD actually.
>
>
>Anmon, a french chess program, uses MTD(f). It is a strong program.
>
>If you are not pruning in the tree, then MTD(f) should be better for you. I
>don't use MTD(f) because I use the value of alpha and beta to prune in the tree,
>and with MTD(f) this kind of pruning makes the search really unstable (you get a
>fail-high, and when you re-search with a higher window you get a fail-low,
>oops).
>
>
>
>    Christophe


What you can do in these cases is to use the external bounds instead of
alpha and beta. By "external bounds" I mean the bounds that have been
established in the mtdf() loop which is driving the alphab-beta search.

Cheers

Andrew



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