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Subject: Re: CCC Elections: a difficult choice

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 23:07:06 08/10/00

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On August 10, 2000 at 11:21:27, Pete Galati wrote:

>On August 10, 2000 at 08:56:43, Aaron Tay wrote:
>
>>On August 09, 2000 at 16:03:39, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On August 09, 2000 at 06:04:14, Aaron Tay wrote:
>>
>>>>But wouldn't "high profile" people be involved in most of the conversation
>>>>threads? Makes it difficult for them to moderate as there's a conflict of
>>>>interest..
>>
>>>>One thing the 3 mentioned avoe have in common, ( Robert Hyatt, Dann Corbit, >>and Mogens Larsen ) is that i think (i could be very wrong) they have strong
>>>>opinions in common? about crafty and other matters  ..
>>
>>
>>>>And we know how much of CCC posts are taken up by posts regarding almost every
>>>>aspect of Crafty espically, those comparing it to commericals..
>>
>>>Good.  People who are involved would be better moderators if you ask me.
>>
>>Well..I disagree..People no matter how level headed they are, get into a lot of
>>trouble when they are personally involved..
>
>Or what is interpreted as trouble, that depends on your perspective.
>
>>
>>Anyway, Dr Hyatt himself is currently keeping a low profile because of some
>>disagreements with some Moderator who intervened in a thread that he (the
>>moderator) was involved in..
>>
>>I hope I'm not misrepresenting his views, but basically he feels that a
>>moderator shouldn't intervene in a thread he is participating in..
>
>Keep in mind how many threads he never did touch.  There are all sorts of
>subjects that he never posts a reply to.
>
>>
>>As such, it would mean that if he was a Moderator he probably would have
>>problems justifying intervening in  debates over Crafty threads, or matters
>>regarding deep blue for that matter..
>>
>[......]
>
>Good.  People need to start taking care of themselves anyhow.  If he is involved
>in a thread (same for the other moderators) and feel he now can't delete
>something in it, then good.
>
>It completely baffles me that people think that this place should be some sort
>of perfect world in here, and that there should be no conflict, and no insults
>whatsoever.  Everything should be peachy all the time, is that it?  I don't
>think so.  People have to stand up, take a stand, protect yourself, protect
>others.  Why should the moderator do your work for you?  I don't want the
>moderator doing the work for me.  I don't want the moderator deleting a post
>before I get a chance to read it, and I also don't want him having any say about
>what I should be able to read or post here.
>
>It sounds to me like you want the moderators to not be involved so that they
>will be free to take things away from you.  But I want moderators not to
>moderate as much.  I'm sick & tired of this place being one big padded cell.
>The place more or less proves that the moderated forum concept doesn't work all
>that well.
>
>Pete

The fact that this place is so popular is powerful evidence that people _do_
want moderation to take place.  If _you_ don't want moderation, I suggest using
r.g.c.c., which is available 24/7 for all your unmoderated computer chess
discussion needs.

Dave



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