Author: Uri Blass
Date: 22:54:30 08/15/00
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On August 15, 2000 at 21:09:22, pavel wrote: >On August 15, 2000 at 19:40:37, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 15, 2000 at 18:50:42, pavel wrote: >> >>>On August 15, 2000 at 13:01:25, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On August 15, 2000 at 10:32:03, pavel wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 05:42:26, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 05:28:47, Marcus Kaestner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 01:15:31, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Nice, that all TOP programs are there. With 4/15 programs >>>>>>>>(Fritz,Junior,Nimzo,SOS) probability for Chessbase to win is quite high! >>>>>>>>Can anybody count it? And specially when all these are very strong... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jouni >>>>>>> >>>>>>>no way. you will see it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>marcus >>>>>> >>>>>>I do not know the future. >>>>>>Chessbase can win and can lose. >>>>>> >>>>>>I am sure shredder,Rebel and tiger are better but the same is also for some >>>>>>chessbase engines. >>>>>> >>>>>>You also cannot be sure that the best program is going to win. >>>>>>In WMCCC of 1997 Junior won convincingly and Junior was not the best program. >>>>>> >>>>>>How do you know before the games that chessbase is not going to win? >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>>besides SOS is not a chessbase engine , so you should count it out ;) >>>>>pavel >>>> >>>> >>>>What is your definition of chessbase engines? >>>>My definition is that every program that chessbase sells is a chessbase engine. >>>> >>>>Chessbase sells Sos in the young talent CD so it is a chessbase engine. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>you must be kidding. >>>if you call lilgoliath a chessbase engine "michael" may sue you ;) >>>Chesbase 'never' demanded SOS to be their engine. >> >>I do not understand your definition of their engine. >>It is possible to have some definitions: >> >>1)Every program that can be used as an engine for Fritz,Junior,Hiarcs or Nimzo >>is a chessbase engine. >>By this definition Crafty is also a chessbase engine. >> >>2)Every program that chessbase sells is a chessbase engine. >>By this definition all the engines in the young talent are chessbase engines but >>Crafty and the engines that are free for download like Comet or Faile are not >>chessbase engines. >> >>3)Every program that Chessbase pays for the programmer to do it is a chessbase >>engine. >>I think that programs in the young talent are chessbase engines by this >>definition and that 2 is practically the same as 3 but I am not sure. >> >> >>4)Every program that is not a free program in the winboard version and >>chessbase sells is a chessbase program. >> >> >>I asked for a clear definition what do you mean when you say a chessbase program >>and did not get a clear reply. >>I do not understand what do you mean by chessbase never demanded SOS to be their >>engine. >>I do not understand why do you think that they demanded Junior and Nimzo to be >>their engines and did not demanded Sos to be their engine. >> >>Uri > >my defination of a chessbase engine is that the chessbase "authority" pays the >author of the programs (eg, frank morsh , amir ban) for the "continuation" or >"further" development of their engine. > >i hope i am clear enough ! Do you say that chessbase needs to pay the programmer twice for 2 versions otherwise the programs will not be a chessbase program(if they pay only for one version they do not pay for the developement of their program). I also think that chessbase is going to pay the programmers of the young talent CD when they improve their programs and if you wait enough time there will be a young2 CD. > ><snip> > >>I do not understand what do you mean by chessbase never demanded SOS to be their >>engine. > > >they never said that SOS to be an engine for "chessbase" or anything like "sos >is a chessbase product" I remember that chessbase claimed some days ago that chessbase will participate with 4 programs and 2 of the programs are Sos and Crafty(they did not know at that time that Junior will also play). Uri
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