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Subject: Re: Chessbase will win!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:54:30 08/15/00

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On August 15, 2000 at 21:09:22, pavel wrote:

>On August 15, 2000 at 19:40:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 15, 2000 at 18:50:42, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On August 15, 2000 at 13:01:25, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 10:32:03, pavel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 05:42:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 05:28:47, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 01:15:31, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nice, that all TOP programs are there. With 4/15 programs
>>>>>>>>(Fritz,Junior,Nimzo,SOS) probability for Chessbase to win is quite high!
>>>>>>>>Can anybody count it? And specially when all these are very strong...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>no way. you will see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not know the future.
>>>>>>Chessbase can win and can lose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am sure shredder,Rebel and tiger are better but the same is also for some
>>>>>>chessbase engines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You also cannot be sure that the best program is going to win.
>>>>>>In WMCCC of 1997 Junior won convincingly and Junior was not the best program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How do you know before the games that chessbase is not going to win?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>besides SOS is not a chessbase engine , so you should count it out ;)
>>>>>pavel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What is your definition of chessbase engines?
>>>>My definition is that every program that chessbase sells is a chessbase engine.
>>>>
>>>>Chessbase sells Sos in the young talent CD so it is a chessbase engine.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>you must be kidding.
>>>if you call lilgoliath a chessbase engine "michael" may sue you ;)
>>>Chesbase 'never' demanded SOS to be their engine.
>>
>>I do not understand your definition of their engine.
>>It is possible to have some definitions:
>>
>>1)Every program that can be used as an engine for Fritz,Junior,Hiarcs or Nimzo
>>is a chessbase engine.
>>By this definition Crafty is also a chessbase engine.
>>
>>2)Every program that chessbase sells is a chessbase engine.
>>By this definition all the engines in the young talent are chessbase engines but
>>Crafty and the engines that are free for download like Comet or Faile are not
>>chessbase engines.
>>
>>3)Every program that Chessbase pays for the programmer to do it is a chessbase
>>engine.
>>I think that programs in the young talent are chessbase engines by this
>>definition and that 2 is practically the same as 3 but I am not sure.
>>
>>
>>4)Every program that is not a free program in the winboard version and
>>chessbase sells is a chessbase program.
>>
>>
>>I asked for a clear definition what do you mean when you say a chessbase program
>>and did not get a clear reply.
>>I do not understand what do you mean by chessbase never demanded SOS to be their
>>engine.
>>I do not understand why do you think that they demanded Junior and Nimzo to be
>>their engines and did not demanded Sos to be their engine.
>>
>>Uri
>
>my defination of a chessbase engine is that the chessbase "authority" pays the
>author of the programs (eg, frank morsh , amir ban) for the "continuation" or
>"further" development of their engine.
>
>i hope i am clear enough !

Do you say that chessbase needs to pay the programmer twice for 2 versions
otherwise the programs will not be a chessbase program(if they pay only for one
version they do not pay for the developement of their program).

I also think that chessbase is going to pay the programmers of the young talent
CD when they improve their programs and if you wait enough time there will be a
young2 CD.

>
><snip>
>
>>I do not understand what do you mean by chessbase never demanded SOS to be their
>>engine.
>
>
>they never said that SOS to be an engine for "chessbase" or anything like "sos
>is a chessbase product"

I remember that chessbase claimed some days ago that chessbase will participate
with 4 programs and 2 of the programs are Sos and Crafty(they did not know at
that time that Junior will also play).

Uri



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