Author: pavel
Date: 08:38:27 08/16/00
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On August 16, 2000 at 01:54:30, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 15, 2000 at 21:09:22, pavel wrote: > >>On August 15, 2000 at 19:40:37, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 15, 2000 at 18:50:42, pavel wrote: >>> >>>>On August 15, 2000 at 13:01:25, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 10:32:03, pavel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 05:42:26, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 05:28:47, Marcus Kaestner wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On August 15, 2000 at 01:15:31, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Nice, that all TOP programs are there. With 4/15 programs >>>>>>>>>(Fritz,Junior,Nimzo,SOS) probability for Chessbase to win is quite high! >>>>>>>>>Can anybody count it? And specially when all these are very strong... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Jouni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>no way. you will see it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I do not know the future. >>>>>>>Chessbase can win and can lose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I am sure shredder,Rebel and tiger are better but the same is also for some >>>>>>>chessbase engines. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You also cannot be sure that the best program is going to win. >>>>>>>In WMCCC of 1997 Junior won convincingly and Junior was not the best program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>How do you know before the games that chessbase is not going to win? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Uri >>>>>> >>>>>>besides SOS is not a chessbase engine , so you should count it out ;) >>>>>>pavel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>What is your definition of chessbase engines? >>>>>My definition is that every program that chessbase sells is a chessbase engine. >>>>> >>>>>Chessbase sells Sos in the young talent CD so it is a chessbase engine. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>you must be kidding. >>>>if you call lilgoliath a chessbase engine "michael" may sue you ;) >>>>Chesbase 'never' demanded SOS to be their engine. >>> >>>I do not understand your definition of their engine. >>>It is possible to have some definitions: >>> >>>1)Every program that can be used as an engine for Fritz,Junior,Hiarcs or Nimzo >>>is a chessbase engine. >>>By this definition Crafty is also a chessbase engine. >>> >>>2)Every program that chessbase sells is a chessbase engine. >>>By this definition all the engines in the young talent are chessbase engines but >>>Crafty and the engines that are free for download like Comet or Faile are not >>>chessbase engines. >>> >>>3)Every program that Chessbase pays for the programmer to do it is a chessbase >>>engine. >>>I think that programs in the young talent are chessbase engines by this >>>definition and that 2 is practically the same as 3 but I am not sure. >>> >>> >>>4)Every program that is not a free program in the winboard version and >>>chessbase sells is a chessbase program. >>> >>> >>>I asked for a clear definition what do you mean when you say a chessbase program >>>and did not get a clear reply. >>>I do not understand what do you mean by chessbase never demanded SOS to be their >>>engine. >>>I do not understand why do you think that they demanded Junior and Nimzo to be >>>their engines and did not demanded Sos to be their engine. >>> >>>Uri >> >>my defination of a chessbase engine is that the chessbase "authority" pays the >>author of the programs (eg, frank morsh , amir ban) for the "continuation" or >>"further" development of their engine. >> >>i hope i am clear enough ! > >Do you say that chessbase needs to pay the programmer twice for 2 versions >otherwise the programs will not be a chessbase program(if they pay only for one >version they do not pay for the developement of their program). > >I also think that chessbase is going to pay the programmers of the young talent >CD when they improve their programs and if you wait enough time there will be a >young2 CD. first of all chessbase doesnt needs to pay money for every version, to call it their program, they can pay the same way they do to the author of "junior" and others. _you_think_ chessbase is going to release young2 _you_dont_know_ for sure !! there is a big differance. IMHO there is little chance for another cd like that. > >> >><snip> >> >>>I do not understand what do you mean by chessbase never demanded SOS to be their >>>engine. >> >> >>they never said that SOS to be an engine for "chessbase" or anything like "sos >>is a chessbase product" > >I remember that chessbase claimed some days ago that chessbase will participate >with 4 programs and 2 of the programs are Sos and Crafty(they did not know at >that time that Junior will also play). right information wrong meaning. the quote that chessbase said was like this "chessbase will participate the tourny ALONG with sos and crafty" because we all know that bob is running crafty and paying for it not chessbase. even to think about something is stupid when we know that bob is involved .... pavel >Uri
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