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Subject: Re: now vs then

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 13:18:45 08/18/00

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On August 18, 2000 at 12:47:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 18, 2000 at 09:46:37, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On August 18, 2000 at 09:27:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 17, 2000 at 22:32:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 17, 2000 at 22:09:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 17, 2000 at 12:39:13, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 17, 2000 at 12:10:32, walter irvin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  i wonder how fritz6 on a 1 ghz would have stacked up vs hitec or cray blitz or
>>>>>>>for that matter deep blue ???????ok maybe deep blue is a stretch , but hitec or
>>>>>>>cray blitz ????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> also with the new computer world championship commimg up year 2000 .i wonder
>>>>>>>how the world champ from 84 or 85 would do in this years tourny ????? have
>>>>>>>things really got that much better?????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ok, I'll bite.  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My opinion (take it with a grain of salt because we cannot match up
>>>>>>the programs).  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.  Fritz6 (PIII 1GHZ) vs Hitec (1989 hardware)        Fritz6 wins +200 ELO
>>>>>>2.  Fritz6 (PIII 1GHZ) vs Cray Blitz (1989 hardwar)    Fritz6 wins +200 ELO
>>>>>
>>>>>You did know that we were doing over 1M nodes per second in 1989?
>>>>
>>>>The number of nodes is not important but the quality of the moves.
>>>>Hiarcs7.32 searches less nodes than Junior4.6 or Fritz3 but is a better program.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>Cray Blitz and crafty are _very_ similar now.  Do you think Crafty at 7M
>>>nodes per second would get rolled over very badly by fritz at 1M?  I don't.
>>
>>Well, Blitz or Crafty on a Cray at 7M NPS would be a good matchup for Fritz6,
>>Junior6, Shredder4, Hiarcs7.32, Chess Tiger ... on a PIII 1Ghz. :)
>>
>>However, I would give the nod to Fritz or DJ6 on a PIII 8x800 mhz.  Just
>>my opinion, I would rather see the match-up, who knows how it would turn
>>out and I would love to see Crafty at 7M NPS play all of the above.  You
>>did a great job with Cray Blitz and you have done a great job with Crafty
>>and so has Amir with Junior, the fritz team, shredder team, Ed with Rebel,
>>Hiarcs team, christophe chess tiger, ...  :)  Bring_it_on for the next
>>WCCC!  :)
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>
>I doubt I will ever compete in a WCCC event with a Cray, again.  They are
>simply too hard to get time on.  Compaq may be willing to put up a 32 cpu
>alpha, however.  That is a 32M node per second machine, easily...
>
>If there is another WCCC event, of course.  I think it is very doubtful.

I understand the problem with getting time on the Cray.  The 32 cpu
alpha would be a very powerful system for Crafty to run on.  Hopefully
there will be another WCCC, but perhaps not.  Pity.

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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