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Subject: Re: GS2930 test, Gandalf solved 9 of 14 !!

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 05:30:01 09/19/00

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On September 19, 2000 at 05:47:30, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 19, 2000 at 01:37:39, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

Hi Uri,

>You cannot decide by a known test suite because programs can be tuned for a
>known test suite.

Yes !

But to see the right move and variant with longer calculations is fine. I have
not see a right move in 0 or 1 seconds. OK, in the LCT II test but in my opinion
the most problems are not complected.

Uri, a good idea is to use the problem without a piece witch are not important
:-) I make this and when I wrote a result from program is fantastic so I am
100%ig sure.

>I prefer to know Gandalf's result in Enrique's secret test suite.

Hm, I must switched information with Enrique and my secret test suites :-)

>I understood from the result that Gandalf is one of the strongest chess programs
>in the world but I do not think that it is the strongest.

I see what I see. I can`t played against each TOP programs. I have no interest
on programs which are not compatible to good engine concepts. I think for all
user it is better to have 1-5 GUIs which are compatible to each other chess
engines. When I make a analyses I am happy when I can switch from engine to
engine. I have no interest on results from 1 chess program with only his own
GUI.

I mean we live in the year 2000 and not in the year 1990 !

>I remember that I read a rating list that suggest that it is in the same level
>of Fritz6a and it is not enough to be number 1 because I guess that the new
>versions of Fritz,Shredder,Rebel and Tiger are better than Fritz6a.

Yes you say here Shredder, Rebel, Tiger and Fritz ...
4 very strong programs but we have a lot of more strong programs !!

Chess Wizard, Ferret, Virtual Chess, The King, Zarkov !
A lot of amateurs are very very strong !

I hope that more and more programs with a high level are available. With Gandalf
we have no a next program which played on a very high level.

Now is intersting to see the playing style from all this programs.
I like Gandalf because the playing style is fantastic.

Uri, when I see a engine - engine match I will see fire on the board and not a
boring endgame ! I don`t know how strong is Rebel, Chess Tiger and Shredder 4. I
played games under Chess-Assistant with Tiger and Shredder. Chess Assistant is
also a very good GUI and also Tiger and Shredder are very good programs.

Sorry for my first message, I have your message not right understand.

Frank



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