Author: Kai Lübke
Date: 05:56:20 12/28/97
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On December 25, 1997 at 15:44:53, Thorsten Czub wrote: >Hm. My results so far, especially against Nimzo98 are not that good. >In the moment I let Hiarcs6 play vs. Mchess7. >It is the first game and move 27. Hiarcs say -428 and Mchess is still in >book and has not computed much. Opening was b03 alekhine- four pawn's >attack. >I guess this first game is pretty worthless because it only shows me >something about the "beautiful" opening book instead of the strength of >the new engine. >But I let it run some more moves to see how deep the Mchess7 book-line >is. >Now it is the 29. move and Mchess STILL in book. OK, some more facts about this problem: I'm currently playing a game at 10 min/move fixed between MChess 7 and Rebel 8 on my P6-200, 60 MB hash each. Rebel left the book at move 13. MChess left the book at move 31! And that happened only because Rebel moved away from 31.Nd4 (which it considered from 0:00 on) close to the 10:00 mark; had it played Nd4, MChess would have stayed in book for another 3 moves! I.e., in a normal tournament game, Rebel would never have reached the point where it moved away from Nd4. So this _could_ mean it's an anti-Rebel8-line (though the eval out of book in the "31.Nd4"-line was only +0,68 by MChess). here's the game: [Event "Long time control tournament A"] [Site "SHEP'S SERVER"] [Round "2"] [White "Rebel 8.0"] [Black "M-CHESS 7.0"] [Score "*"] 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. dxc5 Nc6 5. Bb5 e6 6. Be3 Nge7 7. Nf3 Nf5 8. Bd4 Nfxd4 9. Qxd4 Qa5+ 10. Nc3 Qxb5 11. Nxb5 Nxd4 12. Nbxd4 Bxc5 13. O-O {Rebel out of book at -0,16} Bd7 14. Rfd1 O-O 15. Nb3 Be7 16. c4 Bc6 17. Nfd4 Rac8 18. Na5 Bd7 19. cxd5 exd5 20. Rac1 Rxc1 21. Rxc1 Rc8 22. Rxc8+ Bxc8 23. Nab3 a6 24. f4 Bd8 25. Nc5 g6 26. b4 Kf8 27. Kf2 Ke7 28. Ke3 f6 29. Ne2 b6 30. Nd3 Bf5 31. a4 Kf7 {MChess out of book at +0,17} However, I've recently posted a game Comet A.80 - Fritz 5 to r.g.c.c. where Comet came out of book at +3,15. I called this a "Fritz-killer line", but Comet's author Ulrich Tuerke told me the opening came from a book on the Slav Gambit and was automatically compiled into the opening book. So there's always a possibility something is _not_ a killer or anti-XYZ line... --- Shep
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